(September 14, 2023 at 10:56 pm)Data Wrote: Are you saying that divinity, that is being of, from, or like God or a god (Oxford dictionary definition) doesn't include, men, angels, demons, Satan?

Aquinas differentiates divinity from that which is created.

Aquinas:

The perfections of creatures are innumerable, the Divine Perfection is one.

Created perfections differ endlessly in kind and degree; the Divine perfection is uniform and simple.

(September 14, 2023 at 10:29 pm)Data Wrote:

(September 14, 2023 at 10:08 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: Isaiah represents the final state of Hebrew theology (monotheism) while the sin of idolatry remaining on the books points to the henotheism of the earlier centuries.  Worshiping another god when Yahweh was the only god makes as much sense as a man and woman alone on a deserted island worrying about adultery.

I don't think that holds any water because henotheism seems to be the theological consensus from Genesis through Revelation.

True, Isaiah's monotheism doesn't hold water:

OT:

Exodus 12:12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD.

NT:

2 Cor. 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

(September 14, 2023 at 9:53 pm)Data Wrote:

(September 14, 2023 at 6:32 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: Spirit creatures? Spirit beings? Dafuq are those?!?

You know . . . angels.

Oh... Mythological creatures. Why didn't you just say so?

Ok... In a fight, who would win? Medusa, or an angel?

(September 14, 2023 at 11:50 pm)LinuxGal Wrote:

(September 14, 2023 at 10:29 pm)Data Wrote: I don't think that holds any water because henotheism seems to be the theological consensus from Genesis through Revelation.

True, Isaiah's monotheism doesn't hold water:

OT:

Exodus 12:12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD.

NT:

2 Cor. 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

You shouldn't pay so much attention to scholars and atheists. A prophecy of Jesus . . . 

Isaiah 9:6: For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

(September 15, 2023 at 4:01 am)Data Wrote:

(September 14, 2023 at 11:50 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: True, Isaiah's monotheism doesn't hold water:

OT:

Exodus 12:12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD.

NT:

2 Cor. 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

You shouldn't pay so much attention to scholars and atheists. A prophecy of Jesus . . . 

Isaiah 9:6: For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Didn't Isaiah also prophesy that Mary would name her child 'Immanuel'? Seems this whole prophecy thing is rather hit or myth.

Boru

(September 14, 2023 at 9:53 pm)Data Wrote:

(September 14, 2023 at 6:32 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: Spirit creatures? Spirit beings? Dafuq are those?!?

You know . . . angels.

Aren’t angels just obedient devils?

(September 15, 2023 at 5:55 am)h4ym4n Wrote:

(September 14, 2023 at 9:53 pm)Data Wrote: You know . . . angels.

Aren’t angels just obedient devils?

No, because the word devil means slanderer, liar.

(September 15, 2023 at 7:05 am)Data Wrote:

(September 15, 2023 at 5:55 am)h4ym4n Wrote: Aren’t angels just obedient devils?

No, because the word devil means slanderer, liar.

So if the devils don’t slander then they are being obedient, right?

It just takes one or 1/3rd of angels to bring out what angels really are.

(September 15, 2023 at 4:01 am)Data Wrote:

(September 14, 2023 at 11:50 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: True, Isaiah's monotheism doesn't hold water:

OT:

Exodus 12:12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD.

NT:

2 Cor. 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

You shouldn't pay so much attention to scholars and atheists. A prophecy of Jesus . . . 

Isaiah 9:6: For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Prophesy is not prediction. Omen reading was forbidden. 
"Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft,"
Deeuteronomy 18:10

It was not a prophesy of Jesus. 
Isaiah was telling the King that HIS wife / consort was pregnant, and that they would win the war. 

So you have no references or support for all this bullshit. 
Buh bye. 

(September 15, 2023 at 4:04 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: You shouldn't pay so much attention to scholars and atheists. A prophecy of Jesus . . . 

Isaiah 9:6: For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Didn't Isaiah also prophesy that Mary would name her child 'Immanuel'? Seems this whole prophecy thing is rather hit or myth.

Boru

Immanuel means god is with us. That prophecy was fulfilled at Matthew 1:22-23.

Isaiah also said his name would be Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

And now I don't want to hear any wisecracks about his name being Jesus Immanuel Wonderful Counselor Mighty God Everlasting Father Prince of Peace Christ either.