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RE: Even Atheists Have to be
September 4, 2024 at 7:45 pm
(September 4, 2024 at 7:40 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Straight to fantasizing about my death eh? I think it'd take a pretty miserable set of circumstances for a person at the end of their life -not- to wish they had more time. Then again, I always hope there's more ice cream when I get to the bottom of the carton...but that doesn't lead me to ponder the existence of frosty realms peopled with dairy gods in a totes scientific way...so.
Wow! You have a more closed mind than the 'believers'. I wish I could be there to watch you make that last wish, considering how much confidence you display now.
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RE: Even Atheists Have to be
September 4, 2024 at 7:45 pm
(September 4, 2024 at 7:40 pm)Mortalsfool Wrote: (September 4, 2024 at 7:31 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: You were advised not to post AI responses. Yet you did anyway.
Call me a troll if you like. Actually, I am an admin here. I won't be trolling you; but I will be watching closely.
I am not posting any AI material in my post! I don't think what I'm proposing has anything to do with AI, other than its use as a 'tool' to glean from its vast source of knowledge, where my premise stands in the scope of human knowledge. I can post my premise without the analysis by AI. And you can determine for yourself, if in fact it offers some credibility or not. I would strongly suggest that you don't use AI to try to "prove" your points here.
If we want artificial intelligence input, we can find it on our own. Read and follow the rules and follow suggestions made by staff.
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RE: Even Atheists Have to be
September 4, 2024 at 7:47 pm
The output of AI is generally crap. Despite the name, AI has no actual intelligence, and so it's unable to evaluate the quality of its own output, a skill actual intelligences have.
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RE: Even Atheists Have to be
September 4, 2024 at 7:47 pm
(September 4, 2024 at 7:45 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: (September 4, 2024 at 7:40 pm)Mortalsfool Wrote: I am not posting any AI material in my post! I don't think what I'm proposing has anything to do with AI, other than its use as a 'tool' to glean from its vast source of knowledge, where my premise stands in the scope of human knowledge. I can post my premise without the analysis by AI. And you can determine for yourself, if in fact it offers some credibility or not. I would strongly suggest that you don't use AI to try to "prove" your points here.
If we want artificial intelligence input, we can find it on our own. Read and follow the rules and follow suggestions made by staff. I got ya!
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RE: Even Atheists Have to be
September 4, 2024 at 7:56 pm
(September 4, 2024 at 7:47 pm)Angrboda Wrote: The output of AI is generally crap. Despite the name, AI has no actual intelligence, and so it's unable to evaluate the quality of its own output, a skill actual intelligences have.
Yes, I agree! It doesn't have the ability to 'think' in any dependable way, but it does have an amazing ability to search thru a vast store of previous writings from the past and determine if an idea was thought of in the past, or not.
That seems to be a fair use for it, that shouldn't violate the rule about posting AI material, as if it was your own. I can agree, that that should be a no-no.
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RE: Even Atheists Have to be
September 4, 2024 at 7:59 pm
(September 4, 2024 at 7:45 pm)Mortalsfool Wrote: (September 4, 2024 at 7:40 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Straight to fantasizing about my death eh? I think it'd take a pretty miserable set of circumstances for a person at the end of their life -not- to wish they had more time. Then again, I always hope there's more ice cream when I get to the bottom of the carton...but that doesn't lead me to ponder the existence of frosty realms peopled with dairy gods in a totes scientific way...so.
Wow! You have a more closed mind than the 'believers'. I wish I could be there to watch you make that last wish, considering how much confidence you display now.
From a passive fantasy about my death to an active one in which you are a satisfied observer.
If being close minded is defined as not having a mind that wanders to fairies when considering my mortality you got me..though I don't see how that would be comparable to the faithful..as the difference between us (and apparently between you and I) is that your minds do. You asked, I'm correcting your poor assumptions. I'd suggest you go ahead and get all the canned gripes and complaints out of the way to make room for new ones. I won't mind.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Even Atheists Have to be
September 4, 2024 at 8:00 pm
(September 4, 2024 at 7:45 pm)Mortalsfool Wrote: (September 4, 2024 at 7:40 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Straight to fantasizing about my death eh? I think it'd take a pretty miserable set of circumstances for a person at the end of their life -not- to wish they had more time. Then again, I always hope there's more ice cream when I get to the bottom of the carton...but that doesn't lead me to ponder the existence of frosty realms peopled with dairy gods in a totes scientific way...so.
Wow! You have a more closed mind than the 'believers'. I wish I could be there to watch you make that last wish, considering how much confidence you display now.
You hope to be there at the time of Nudger's death? You need to slow your roll a bit.
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RE: Even Atheists Have to be
September 4, 2024 at 8:00 pm
(September 4, 2024 at 7:56 pm)Mortalsfool Wrote: (September 4, 2024 at 7:47 pm)Angrboda Wrote: The output of AI is generally crap. Despite the name, AI has no actual intelligence, and so it's unable to evaluate the quality of its own output, a skill actual intelligences have.
Yes, I agree! It doesn't have the ability to 'think' in any dependable way, but it does have an amazing ability to search thru a vast store of previous writings from the past and determine if an idea was thought of in the past, or not.
That seems to be a fair use for it, that shouldn't violate the rule about posting AI material, as if it was your own. I can agree, that that should be a no-no.
You're ignoring the fact that AI quite frequently makes up shit and references things in ways so off they qualify as misinformation. You seem to have swallowed some bullshit ideas about current AI and its limits.
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RE: Even Atheists Have to be
September 4, 2024 at 8:15 pm
(September 4, 2024 at 7:59 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: (September 4, 2024 at 7:45 pm)Mortalsfool Wrote: Wow! You have a more closed mind than the 'believers'. I wish I could be there to watch you make that last wish, considering how much confidence you display now.
From a passive fantasy about my death to an active one in which you are a satisfied observer.
If being close minded is defined as not having a mind that wanders to fairies when considering my mortality you got me..though I don't see how that would be comparable to the faithful..as the difference between us (and apparently between you and I) is that your minds do. You asked, I'm correcting your poor assumptions. I'd suggest you go ahead and get all the canned gripes and complaints out of the way to make room for new ones. I won't mind.
What amazes me, is all I was seeking in this forum, was someone that doesn't believe in an afterlife to look at the science in my proposal. I said above that I respect the fact you don't believe and would be better able to consider the science proposed than a believer would be. I assume that it is probable your observation of science founds your disbelief and find it incredible that you wouldn't want to know, if in fact, science could propose a logical view of creation which doesn't violate reason.
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RE: Even Atheists Have to be
September 4, 2024 at 8:36 pm
(This post was last modified: September 4, 2024 at 8:41 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I'd considered linking you to a group of folks who actually did want to do what you suggested in the op. Propose a worldview in which spirituality and science are complimentary and coherent - but I see now you wanna tell me about ghosts and meat wizards.
I can only tell you what I already told you. I tend to think about the life I have, especially in life threatening situations. It's been going well thusfar...ironically, against some very faithful people who I can only assume did believe in ghosts and meat wizards..for all the good it did them.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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