I'll take the Macallan for my possession.

So this is what religious people mean when they say there is evidence for God's existence. God and his Angels intervened in Manhattan from heaven after people prayed for decades, as this Catholic explains.

Quote:Planned Parenthood to Shutter Manhattan Facility: A Witness to Answered Prayers

This was no ordinary closure to me or to the countless others who've stood on those sidewalks in prayer. This was a moment of Divine intervention — a testament to the power of grace.

It seemed especially fitting that the announcement came today, on the feast of St. Joseph. St. Joseph, guardian of the Holy Family, embodies faithfulness, humility and silent strength. His life, marked by unwavering obedience to God and protection of the most vulnerable, mirrors the quiet, steadfast witness of those who’ve prayed outside the facility.

I’ve documented the quiet but unwavering presence of the Witness for Life and 40 Days for Life prayer vigils for over a decade. Month after month, year after year, through the biting chill of winter and the sweltering heat of summer, people of faith gathered there.

This closure might seem like just another business decision, another casualty of financial strain to the outside world. But to those who’ve knelt on those sidewalks, who’ve poured out their hearts in prayer, it feels like something far more profound: a miracle — a moment when heaven touched earth and the countless prayers of the faithful were answered.

But now, as the doors of 26 Bleecker Street prepare to close, this chapter will come to an end: a victory, a Jericho moment — not born of human effort, but of grace.

The battle for life is far from over; but, today, there’s cause to celebrate, because this reveals firsthand how God works in ways we cannot always see.

And today, we’ve witnessed a glimpse — proof that, through prayer, trust and love, miracles can … and do … happen.

https://www.ncregister.com/news/planned-...-manhattan

Given the insane political, financial, and propaganda power put against the pro-life movement, it legitimately feels like a miracle.

Let's fix this statement to make it factual (Note I am not implying that this is TheWhiteMarten is saying  this is just mockery)


Given the insane political, financial, and propaganda power used by the pro-life movement, it legitimately feels like a miracle anyone takes it seriously or it ever actually wins 


Or how about this 


Given the insane political, financial, and facts and logic  put against the pro-life movement, it legitimately feels like a miracle.

(March 24, 2025 at 12:34 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Given the insane political, financial, and propaganda power put against the pro-life movement, it legitimately feels like a miracle.

Not to me, it feels like the kind of irrational nonsense, the superstitious indulge all the time. However lets forget about how it subjectively feels, and check the evidence:

A miracle is defined as "an extraordinary and welcome event that is not explicable by natural or scientific laws and is therefore attributed to a divine agency." 

This can be explained as an entirely natural phenomenon, so even prima facie it demonstrably does not qualify to the irrational evidential standards of the definition. Now since your deity is depicted in your bible, as being happy to commit and encourage the indiscriminate murder of children, babies, and all stages of foetal development, I am curious why anti-choicers like yourself, are celebrating this as a favourable outcome? So that's strike two, now what objective evidence, beyond your own glee at forcing your beliefs onto others, can you demonstrate that anything supernatural occurred here, and then that it was a deity, and then that it was the deity you imagine to be real? 

FWIW the definition of a miracle is itself fallacious, since nothing can rationally be claimed to be true, because of the lack of an alternative explanation. 

I think I know the answer to this one, but does your moral compass stop to consider whether the consequences of your actions cause suffering? Real suffering I mean, not the imaginary kind.

FYI, research has consistently shown that abortion rates are higher in countries where they are not legally available. Also pro-life is a massive misnomer, as if you really were pro life then you wouldn't risk the lives of pregnant women, and the vast majority of abortions that occur in the US are a balstocyst or zygot, it's just a microscopic clump of cells adhering to the uterine wall. By making abortions illegal, you're virtually guaranteeing more late term abortions, as women seek them elsewhere. FWIW the current stance by the foremost elite body of Obstetricians in both the US and UK, say there is no evidence that a foetus is ever conscious, and although the central nervous system starts to form around 3 weeks, the neural connections essential to register any pain (if it were fully conscious), don't fully form until after birth. 

The women whose body the developing foetus or blastocyst is a part of, obviously are capable of experiencing both physical and emotional pain.

(March 24, 2025 at 12:34 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Given the insane political, financial, and propaganda power put against the pro-life movement, it legitimately feels like a miracle.

There is no 'pro-life movement'. What you have is a pro-birth movement.

Boru

I agree, they're not pro-life, they're anti choice. I am pro life, that's why I don't want to enslave women, by taking away their bodily autonomy. Least of all to enforce the morality of archaic bronze age superstitions, and to grant those rights to an microscopic clump of insentient cells.

(March 24, 2025 at 12:34 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Given the insane political, financial, and propaganda power put against the pro-life movement, it legitimately feels like a miracle.

Aren’t you just saying you are just pro forced birth?

You don’t give a fuck about after the birth especially if the birth is something other than white person.


We get who you are theWHITEmarten.

(March 24, 2025 at 6:36 am)h4ym4n Wrote:

(March 24, 2025 at 12:34 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Given the insane political, financial, and propaganda power put against the pro-life movement, it legitimately feels like a miracle.

Aren’t you just saying you are just pro forced birth?

You don’t give a fuck about after the birth especially if the birth is something other than white person.


We get who you are theWHITEmarten.

Or if it happened to have gender dysphoria when it grew into a person, then suddenly it is ok for him to compare them to fictional monsters. He can get all outraged and bent out of shape over a microscopic clump of cells though.

(March 24, 2025 at 10:24 am)Sheldon Wrote:

(March 24, 2025 at 6:36 am)h4ym4n Wrote: Aren’t you just saying you are just pro forced birth?

You don’t give a fuck about after the birth especially if the birth is something other than white person.


We get who you are theWHITEmarten.

Or if it happened to have gender dysphoria when it grew into a person, then suddenly it is ok for him to compare them to fictional monsters. He can get all outraged and bent out of shape over a microscopic clump of cells though.

And when that clump of cells becomes a 7 year old child, The Weasel would be the first person to call the cops on the kid for operating a lemonade stand without a permit.

Boru