(June 6, 2025 at 5:05 pm)SubtleVirtue Wrote:

(June 6, 2025 at 4:52 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Another member asked about your inventions, but you seem only to claim them and not mention anything else about them.

I am not allowed to quote myself (copy/paste) or link to sites yet... it hasn't been 30 days...

You can't give a simple answer?  A hint?

(June 6, 2025 at 5:07 pm)SubtleVirtue Wrote:

(June 6, 2025 at 4:58 pm)Sheldon Wrote: I don't agree, do you have anything beyond a bare claim?

Are you referring to 11?

No, obviously I was referring to the woo woo conclusion, that you tacked on "as a bare claim".

(June 6, 2025 at 4:56 pm)Sheldon Wrote:

(June 6, 2025 at 4:50 pm)SubtleVirtue Wrote: I am one of the smartest people in the world.

Who used a known common logical fallacy, so I am dubious, but of course a more relevant barrier to that claim, is that you don't seem to understand it has no relevance to any claim, or argument you make, or why...

appeal to authority can be considered a fallacy... if it's used in the wrong way

(June 6, 2025 at 5:09 pm)SubtleVirtue Wrote:

(June 6, 2025 at 4:56 pm)Sheldon Wrote: Who used a known common logical fallacy, so I am dubious, but of course a more relevant barrier to that claim, is that you don't seem to understand it has no relevance to any claim, or argument you make, or why...

appeal to authority can be considered a fallacy... if it's used in the wrong way

Indeed, and that error in your reasoning above, does not support the ludicrous hubris, in your self-aggrandizing claim.

(June 6, 2025 at 5:08 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(June 6, 2025 at 5:05 pm)SubtleVirtue Wrote: I am not allowed to quote myself (copy/paste) or link to sites yet... it hasn't been 30 days...

You can't give a simple answer?  A hint?

I will PM you

(June 6, 2025 at 4:50 pm)SubtleVirtue Wrote: Those three things suggest that I am one of the smartest people in the world.

(June 6, 2025 at 5:11 pm)Sheldon Wrote:

(June 6, 2025 at 5:09 pm)SubtleVirtue Wrote: appeal to authority can be considered a fallacy... if it's used in the wrong way

Indeed, and that error in reasoning, does not support the ludicrous hubris, in your self-aggrandizing claim.

I merely point out that there is a correlation involved.

(June 6, 2025 at 4:53 pm)Alan V Wrote:

(June 6, 2025 at 4:35 pm)SubtleVirtue Wrote: Energy is (1) eternal, (2) omnipresent, (3) omnipotent, (4) consciousness.

Energy is not conscious, therefore energy is not God.

Does every cause involve energy?

Is energy self-causal?

Is self-causal a synonym for self-deterministic?

Is self-determinism consciousness?

(June 6, 2025 at 5:12 pm)SubtleVirtue Wrote:

(June 6, 2025 at 5:11 pm)Sheldon Wrote: Indeed, and that error in reasoning, does not support the ludicrous hubris, in your self-aggrandizing claim.

I merely point out that there is a correlation involved.

With a bare claim, again the risible self aggrandising assertion, that you made, about your own intelligence, has absolutely no bearing on any argument you present, and again, the fact you don't seem to understand its irrelevance, or why it is irrelevant, creates an obvious inference.

(June 6, 2025 at 5:17 pm)SubtleVirtue Wrote:

(June 6, 2025 at 4:53 pm)Alan V Wrote: Energy is not conscious, therefore energy is not God.

Does every cause involve energy?

Is energy self-causal?

Is self-causal a synonym for self-deterministic?

Is self-determinism consciousness?

You believe in a deterministic universe.  Stephen Hawking proposed a quantum cosmology in which there are, in fact, very real chance events.  Chance events lead to what he called "frozen accidents," which in turn lead to evolution of the physical universe, then of life, then of consciousness.  Life and consciousness, from that perspective, are not caused by determined forces alone, but emerge from chance events.

In other words, your teleology is far from proven, since I think Hawking qualified as a very smart person.

For reference, see On the Origin of Time: Stephen Hawking's Final Theory.