(June 7, 2025 at 6:16 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Even God doesn’t love everyone - it says so in the Bible. If there are limits to God’s love, then ‘God is love’ is a nonsensical statement.

Boru

A limited god is equally laughable.

Having a theistic scientist is like getting Bateman when you need Batman.

(June 7, 2025 at 7:05 pm)Silver Wrote: Having a theistic scientist is like getting Bateman when you need Batman.

I've known any number of scientists who were also believers. Their religion was never an issue. This one is simply no scientist. Its scientific literacy is on par with that of a moldy potato.

(June 7, 2025 at 7:15 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:

(June 7, 2025 at 7:05 pm)Silver Wrote: Having a theistic scientist is like getting Bateman when you need Batman.

I've known any number of scientists who were also believers. Their religion was never an issue. This one is simply no scientist. Its scientific literacy is on par with that of a moldy potato.

In my life, I’ve know roughly a double dozen actual, working scientist, and not ONE of them was confused about radiometric dating.

Boru

(June 7, 2025 at 7:26 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(June 7, 2025 at 7:15 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: I've known any number of scientists who were also believers. Their religion was never an issue. This one is simply no scientist. Its scientific literacy is on par with that of a moldy potato.

In my life, I’ve know roughly a double dozen actual, working scientist, and not ONE of them was confused about radiometric dating.

Boru

One of the religious scientists that I know does radiometric dating. Put her in a room with a creationist and there won't even be smoking boots left. She hates them, says that people might mistake her one one of those idiots.

(June 7, 2025 at 5:30 pm)SubtleVirtue Wrote:

(June 6, 2025 at 8:36 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Objection, assumes facts not in evidence.

Are you claiming that self-causal is not a synonym of self-deterministic?

I'm arguing that this has not been shown, hence, "not in evidence".

(June 7, 2025 at 5:19 pm)SubtleVirtue Wrote:

(June 6, 2025 at 7:31 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Not at all. I’m stating that these were found in fossils, not bones. This discovery does not change the timeline of dinosaur species, it simply showed that, under certain condition, some soft tissues can survive the fossilization process.

Boru

I wonder what would happen if they carbon dated the blood.

Nothing. Carbon dating doesn't work well past 30,000 years or so, and cannot address anything 65 million years old. For that, you need K/Ar dating at the minimum.

I should think that such a fart smucker as you claim to be would already know this.

(June 7, 2025 at 5:43 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:

(June 7, 2025 at 5:31 pm)SubtleVirtue Wrote: did they carbon date the blood?

The material isn't blood, it's some material that might be blood cells, depending on interpretation. You can't carbon date individual cells. Simply not enough material to lift a 14-C date off of. The scientists who maintain that the material has recently been contaminated (not blood cells but rather fungal cells) would love to do exactly that. Finding modern 14-C would demonstrate that the samples have been contaminated.

How do you contaminate the sample if its locked up in solid fossil?

What we should find if 'your' theory is correct, is that there would be zero carbon 14.

We should have the test done either way.

(June 7, 2025 at 5:53 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:

(June 7, 2025 at 5:41 pm)SubtleVirtue Wrote: show me a sample of life based material that is older than 50k years old

Every trilobite ever and this famous lady:

Are you claiming that trilobite fossils have carbon such that they have been carbon dated?

What is the evidence for Lucy? Was it debunked?

(June 7, 2025 at 5:55 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:

(June 7, 2025 at 5:38 pm)SubtleVirtue Wrote: Here is a small proof;
"God is love"

First, that's not a proof.  Secondly, no.  Basic identity stuff here.  

Bill is love.  True or false?

A survey can demonstrate things. Epistemologically, they prove things... or atleast show a correlation or suggest the possibility of things.

God is energy. True or false?

is energy love? 

I don't have a proof for that yet, save the fact that atheists don't love everyone.