Your institutions are called The Deep South, or the GOP.

(January 4, 2012 at 3:15 pm)TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote:

(January 4, 2012 at 3:08 pm)5thHorseman Wrote: Cannot believe how retarded people can be. Where do you breed these fuckers? In UK they'd be in an institution or drugged the fuck up.

We have institutions like that too. Our institution is so massive, it compromises everything south of the mason-dixon line in the US.

Can we ask the question why these people are so crazy? Why south of the mason-dixon line? What policy make these people lack basic thinking skills. That is the problem we need to fix, I find it hard to believe they are all that stupid, maybe mislead by someone or something. Ban Fox news from the south lol see what happens. You think all these crazies come up with this shit all themselves, nah its all calculation of stories and crazy shit that the media pushes out to the point it "seems" real, if Bill O reliliy talks about something IT must be real!!! Hahahaha. Media is fighting a war on our minds, seen any reality TV lately lol.

Or introduce a zombie virus into the south and watch them eat each other... More entertaining.

(January 4, 2012 at 3:25 pm)paintpooper Wrote: Can we ask the question why these people are so crazy?

I have my theories but I don't honestly know.
In the case of the birthers, my best guess is good old fashioned American racism combined with being among the fringe of the right-wing politics somehow congealed into "this guy can't POSSIBLY be president. There MUST be some way to get him out of our white house."

(January 4, 2012 at 3:25 pm)paintpooper Wrote: Why south of the mason-dixon line?

It's just my way of saying 'the bible belt" or "the deep south" or just "the south."
That's where you'll tend to find the highest concentration of racist, ignorant, group of conservative republican bible-thumpers.
In other words, the greatest concentration of embarrassments to the United States.

(January 4, 2012 at 3:25 pm)paintpooper Wrote: What policy make these people lack basic thinking skills.

I blame the fundementalist religious elements combined with the republican wishful thinking of "give rich people everything and everyone will benefit somehow" mentality. The constant FOX News and christian propoganda and funding cuts to education doesn't help either.

(January 4, 2012 at 3:25 pm)paintpooper Wrote: That is the problem we need to fix, I find it hard to believe they are all that stupid, maybe mislead by someone or something. Ban Fox news from the south lol see what happens. You think all these crazies come up with this shit all themselves, nah its all calculation of stories and crazy shit that the media pushes out to the point it "seems" real, if Bill O reliliy talks about something IT must be real!!! Hahahaha. Media is fighting a war on our minds, seen any reality TV lately lol.

It would be disingenuous of me to say that they're ALL that stupid, but it tends to be the place where you'll find creationist science teachers every now and again as well as people like Orly Taitz. They're not in the majority, but they're more than loud enough and crazy enough to make everyone look bad.
Putting a ban on FOX News won't do anything - they're just preaching to the choir.... the 65+ year old angry racist white guy crowds that think free healthcare is fascism.
Putting more money into education would help enormously, but republians hate facts, education, and truth so it's an uphill battle.

But why does the 65 year old angry racist think free healthcare is socialism? Where did he get his information? That is the issue.
Did he just conjure it up in his own brain? I doubt it. Most of these issues come from a group of people who think up these "talking points" that is why most media is very streamlined with information. They all get the same information from one source. Look into how the healthcare law thing... one person Frank Luntz said "government takeover" then the phrase caught on with no facts behind it.
There is no real journalism anymore, and that is an issue as well. They take information from "authority" people and figure that is just the truth ha ha ha. Yes when GWB said their are WMD in Iraq we should just take his word for it and not investigate ourselves ha ha ha, and guess what, We got what we paid for, we took these "authority" people on their word and created a cluster fuck of fuck. I don't care what anyone in any position of authority says, they need facts and evidence, republicans AND democrats.

Yes education should fix a lot of issues, but your right they don't think education is important, they want mindless drones who watch MSM and reality TV.

(January 4, 2012 at 4:12 pm)paintpooper Wrote: But why does the 65 year old angry racist think free healthcare is socialism?

The idea that everything the government does is bad and private companies can do everything better for everyone. It's a republican/conservative principle that "goernment is the problem" taken to its natural extreme.
Don't ask them to give up their social security or medicare though.

(January 4, 2012 at 4:12 pm)paintpooper Wrote: Where did he get his information?

Years of repeated talking point from politicians and "experts" put to repeat said talking points on news programs, commercials, and other forms of propoganda with a thorough mixing of actual legitimate greviences so certain people can use that anger to help them politically.

(January 4, 2012 at 4:12 pm)paintpooper Wrote: Did he just conjure it up in his own brain? I doubt it. Most of these issues come from a group of people who think up these "talking points" that is why most media is very streamlined with information. They all get the same information from one source. Look into how the healthcare law thing... one person Frank Luntz said "government takeover" then the phrase caught on with no facts behind it.

Precisely!

(January 4, 2012 at 4:12 pm)paintpooper Wrote: There is no real journalism anymore, and that is an issue as well. They take information from "authority" people and figure that is just the truth ha ha ha. Yes when GWB said their are WMD in Iraq we should just take his word for it and not investigate ourselves ha ha ha, and guess what, We got what we paid for, we took these "authority" people on their word and created a cluster fuck of fuck. I don't care what anyone in any position of authority says, they need facts and evidence, republicans AND democrats.

There is still real journalism - it's just now flocked from the television news companies to everyday people like you and I who write blogs, vblogs, or even run small-time news companies.
The young turks is a good example of this sort of thing in action. They were the only news sources other than the daily show (a FAKE news source) to point out that Obama was up to sign the NDAA - or the law that basically eliminates a citizen's right to trial.

(January 4, 2012 at 4:12 pm)paintpooper Wrote: Yes education should fix a lot of issues, but your right they don't think education is important, they want mindless drones who watch MSM and reality TV.

It would fix almost all of the issues. 100% of America's problems stems from the ignorant masses. Educating them would be the most dangerous thing that you could do to the people in power.

(January 4, 2012 at 3:41 pm)TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote:

(January 4, 2012 at 3:25 pm)paintpooper Wrote: Can we ask the question why these people are so crazy?

[...] politics somehow congealed into "this guy can't POSSIBLY be president. There MUST be some way to get him out of our white house."

I suspect you're correct. We saw this before with Clinton and Monicagate, and it could be argued that something similar happened with respect to G.W. Bush. No, I don't really want to open those two particular cans of worms - the point here is that in recent elections, we've seen legal challenges to elections by those who didn't care for the result. It may be a case of selective memory on my part, but it does seem to be happening with more frequency, not just at the federal level. I've seen it locally as well.

(January 4, 2012 at 4:23 pm)TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote: The idea that everything the government does is bad and private companies can do everything better for everyone. It's a republican/conservative principle that "goernment is the problem" taken to its natural extreme.
Don't ask them to give up their social security or medicare though.

True but it goes both ways. Government is people. Businesses are people. It is the people in authority positions in both institutions that make them corrupt. Government can be the problem in some things, in some it is not. They frame it like " if everyone has free healthcare they are taking money from YOU " in reality they could frame it much different like " the savings from adequate care, less ER time, no "insurance middle man", and all other facets of universal health care would actually put more money in your pocket after it is all said and done" I pay 150 a month for health care... and never use it.

Is it much of a stretch to say that most things are calculated and are released for reasons. Spin is very effective of a tool in propaganda. I could show you a picture of a massacred body and say " This man was killed by Libyan government ". Would you accept it, or ask for more evidence? If you want more evidence, don't you think CNN, NBC, FOX, should have to show more evidence as well? What makes them more of an authority then I, should you not question them also? Why is this that?

How many people watch TYT, compared too CNN, NBC, Fox?
The questions is how do we make REAL news the REAL news, and not this fake spinny spin spin garbage most people watch.

(January 4, 2012 at 3:15 pm)TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote: We have institutions like that too. Our institutoin is so massive, it compromises everything south of the mason-dixon line in the US.

It's not so bad, at least where I am at.

(January 4, 2012 at 3:10 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: They're allowed to roam the streets freely here. We let 'em vote as well.

Hell, we let them run for office!

Quote:C'mon guys - let's be fair to Georgia -

Obviously you've never been there.