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Strange science ?
#71
RE: Strange science ?
(November 2, 2025 at 2:44 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: If it is a simulation, what should I do differently?

Exactly.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#72
RE: Strange science ?
If reality is a simulation, what is it a simulation of exactly?
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#73
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Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.

Albert Einstein
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#74
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(November 2, 2025 at 3:12 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(November 2, 2025 at 2:44 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: If it is a simulation, what should I do differently?

Exactly.

Boru

Kind of a philosophical inquiry but it does raise the question if there is actually any meaningful difference between a simulated universe and a so-called real one. Real in what respect? The two universes might be different 'under the hood' but is one really any more 'real' than the other?
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.

Albert Einstein
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#75
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The best argument I've heard against the simulated universe is that you would need the energy of an entire universe to simulate a universe. But then again, there are already some games that simulate the entire galaxy, like No Man's Sky, although, I guess, not very precise. We haven't even come to a point where we can precisely simulate an Earth-like planet. GTA games come relatively close to simulating a city.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#76
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(November 2, 2025 at 11:05 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Since all simulations are inherently algorithmic, and the fundamental nature of reality is non algorithmic, the researchers conclude that the universe cannot be, and could never be a simulation.

This leads me to wonder how our perception does exactly that. Either they're suggesting that there's something "non-algorithmic" about the human brain or they're suggesting that we can't perceive reality. Both options would appear to have problems.
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#77
RE: Strange science ?
(November 3, 2025 at 12:58 am)AFTT47 Wrote:
(November 2, 2025 at 3:12 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Exactly.

Boru

Kind of a philosophical inquiry but it does raise the question if there is actually any meaningful difference between a simulated universe and a so-called real one. Real in what respect? The two universes might be different 'under the hood' but is one really any more 'real' than the other?

Again, it's a meaningful and important topic, it's just one I can't get excited about (like the free will debate). Living in a simulated Universe would be indistinguishable from living in a non-simulated one, so *shrug*

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#78
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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#79
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Why can't reality both be real, and a simulation? I don't see it necessarily being either or
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#80
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(November 7, 2025 at 10:00 am)Aoi Magi Wrote: Why can't reality both be real, and a simulation? I don't see it necessarily being either or

I think it would have to be either/or. If it’s real, it’s not a simulation. If it’s a simulation, it’s not real.

A simulation is, by definition, an imitative representation of reality. The root is the Latin simulato, meaning ‘pretense’ or ‘imitation’.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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