(January 29, 2012 at 8:43 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote:

(January 29, 2012 at 8:15 pm)Hitchslap Wrote:

(January 29, 2012 at 7:48 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote:

(January 29, 2012 at 7:46 pm)Loading Please Wait Wrote: "Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people...They desire nothing but your ruin....You believe in the entire Book..." (Surah 3:118, 119)

Fuck your shitty Quran, Fuck Islam, and Fuck you.

Like I said, Insulting my religion.

You insult everyone who's not Islamic by adhering to a passage like what was just said. If thats how you truly believe that you shouldnt be friends with non believers because they will bring you to ruins then why are you even on this forum, such a waste of your time and especially ours.....

Just ban this guy already, he's broken the preaching rule many times.

Off topic: How am I breaking the rules? isn't preaching telling people or inviting to convert? What I am doing is debating by giving out articles which are there for discussions.

If I broke the rules accidently then I apologise because thats not my intentions.

Anyway, who has heard of a man called Adam Deen? a very good apologist in my eyes.

Why do you continue to claim Allah is impotent? Let him defend himself. IOW shut up and stop your preaching bullshit.

Okay okay. The thing is this is how I debate with Christians. I recommend articles and lectures for them to watch. It's obviously different compared to Atheists.

How do you want me to debate? Do you want me to give rebuttals by myself or what? because I have always seen written articles send links to the writer to inform the reader so thats what i'm doing.

(January 29, 2012 at 9:02 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote: Okay okay. The thing is this is how I debate with Christians. I recommend articles and lectures for them to watch. It's obviously different compared to Atheists.

How do you want me to debate? Do you want me to give rebuttals by myself or what? because I have always seen written articles send links to the writer to inform the reader so thats what i'm doing.

Start with the premise that we are not going to believe a single claim you make and that any articles you provide for us are equally going to be treated with great skepticism and derision.

Also, have a chat with some fellow muslim members who are respected here and valuable contributors to get some tips.

Rayaan is such a member and also a member of staff, so you see, we don't have anything against muslims per say.

(January 29, 2012 at 9:08 pm)Darwinian Wrote:

(January 29, 2012 at 9:02 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote: Okay okay. The thing is this is how I debate with Christians. I recommend articles and lectures for them to watch. It's obviously different compared to Atheists.

How do you want me to debate? Do you want me to give rebuttals by myself or what? because I have always seen written articles send links to the writer to inform the reader so thats what i'm doing.

Start with the premise that we are not going to believe a single claim you make and that any articles you provide for us are equally going to be treated with great skepticism and derision.

Also, have a chat with some fellow muslim members who are respected here and valuable contributors to get some tips.

Rayaan is such a member and also a member of staff, so you see, we don't have anything against muslims per say.

But I'm not preaching. I don't want to be banned. Is Rayaan still active on here?

Yes, he is very active... http://atheistforums.org/user-1276.html

And no-one is going to ban you unless you break the rules and even then you will be warned first. Remember that this is an atheist forum and so you are not debating with fellow theists. Your approach has to be somewhat different.

To us, evidence is something that can be demonstrated to be true and not simply text from ancient documents that could have been written down by anyone.

(January 29, 2012 at 9:02 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote: How do you want me to debate?

You're not debating. You just keep going on with the notion that you are always gonna be right, we are always gonna be wrong.

You're the one believing in the bull shit from the Quran.

Science can explain everything.
Religion has the means to explain the unknown.

Why do the tides come in and out?
Science - The moons gravitational pull on the earth, etc.
Religion - Goddidit

Why humans are a dominant species over the world?
Science - Natural Selection and Evolution of the Human Brain
Religion - Goddidit

How do magnets work?
Science - Magnetic Fields
Religion - Goddidit

GOD FUCKING DID IT.

(January 29, 2012 at 9:02 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote: Okay okay. The thing is this is how I debate with Christians. I recommend articles and lectures for them to watch. It's obviously different compared to Atheists.

How do you want me to debate? Do you want me to give rebuttals by myself or what? because I have always seen written articles send links to the writer to inform the reader so thats what i'm doing.

That isn't a debate, that is a lecture and it will get over on the ignorant masses in mosques but not anywhere else.

(January 29, 2012 at 8:01 pm)Phil Wrote: I thought rule 4 was...

rule 4 Wrote:No Preaching
To advocate, especially to urge acceptance of or compliance with your own theology, philosophy or point of view is not permitted. If you want to preach, get yourself a soapbox in hyde park and don't do it here. You are welcome to discuss your own beliefs, why you believe them, etc. Just don't expect or demand anyone to agree with them.

Why hasn't this guy been warned or banned?

Because we're all still fucking with him.

(January 29, 2012 at 9:02 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote: Okay okay. The thing is this is how I debate with Christians. I recommend articles and lectures for them to watch. It's obviously different compared to Atheists.

How do you want me to debate? Do you want me to give rebuttals by myself or what? because I have always seen written articles send links to the writer to inform the reader so thats what i'm doing.

There are a plethora of related threads at the end of the page here. I would suggest that you read them ALL.

As has been stated before; many on here HAVE read that little book of yours the rest of use have read your silly links and selected texts and we ALL have researched for evidence OUTSIDE religious texts and found nothing but lies and tyranny and the worst of human behaviour.

Rayaan has earned our respect and high regard because he debates / discusses and is open to the concept of "Agreeing to Disagree". Religion hits an immovable mountain here on this site.

This sockpuppet doesn't debate, he simply sprays other people's dumbass thoughts out in clips and then, when he gets his ass handed to him, complains that it is unkind treatment. He hasn't refuted a single counter to his(er, other people's) tripe. Just another fleshbag from Zomballah.