(March 20, 2012 at 7:00 am)NoMoreFaith Wrote: Out of interest, what is your view on evolution in the orthodox church, I confess ignorance on that.

It's not really an issue within the Orthodox Church, there isn't really an "official" line like the Catholic Church its a matter of personal choice, I personally don't have any probnlem with evolution if it is true, although I happen to think it isn't..but I'm certainly not a creationist. I think the theory requires much closer scrutiny and in time will be shown to be false as its understood at this moment.

Hey StatCrux, you sound like a decent and well educated person. I'm pretty interested on your take of the God debate.

Would it be too much to ask for if I asked you to start a thread where you propose your reasoning? By the looks of it, this thread doesn't do your viewpoint justice so I'm proposing to start a discussion from explicitly your viewpoint pretty much =)

There is always the Debate area... just sayin

(March 20, 2012 at 7:00 am)genkaus Wrote: The question of god's existence does become a biological/scientific issue once you invoke god as an explanation in biology/science. If someone tried to claim that 1+1=2 because god made it so - then it would be a mathematical issue as well, subject to the standard of inquiry of that subject. You brought him into the subject - don't run away now.

Not quite correct, the question may arise but it doesn't change in nature, it still remains a philosophical question. What you are saying is that philosophical questions can arise due to scientific discoveries, very true but it doesn't then become a biological/scientific issue.

(March 20, 2012 at 7:15 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: There is always the Debate area... just sayin

Yeah I guess.. but I'm more of a listener lately. I'll pitch in my 2 cents every once in a while though.

(March 20, 2012 at 7:17 am)FallentoReason Wrote:

(March 20, 2012 at 7:15 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: There is always the Debate area... just sayin

Yeah I guess.. but I'm more of a listener lately. I'll pitch in my 2 cents every once in a while though.

I understand...but should you wish to the Debate area is there...just sayin

(March 20, 2012 at 7:15 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: There is always the Debate area... just sayin

Is it wrong of me to think of the debate area as the OK Corral. If 2 people have a serious discussion, then they can CHALLENGE each other to an intellectual duel.

I know its not really that way, but it sounds more exciting!

NMF, I am lousy (as you may have noticed) at debate. BUT for those who wish to have a one on one debate this area is there so as to eliminate extraneous intervention that can seriously derail a topic (as happens quite often on the open forums)

If one seriously wishes to discuss, in the form of debate, a particular topic; this area is available....please contact the Mods/ Admin for access though.

(March 20, 2012 at 7:16 am)StatCrux Wrote: Not quite correct, the question may arise but it doesn't change in nature, it still remains a philosophical question. What you are saying is that philosophical questions can arise due to scientific discoveries, very true but it doesn't then become a biological/scientific issue.

Quite incorrect. If an issue arises within the field, then it can be judged within the constraints of the field - thereby making it an issue of that field. Take another "philosophical" issue of consciousness. This issue is very much a biological issue when neuro-biologists try to determine the areas of the brain which give rise to it.

(March 20, 2012 at 7:12 am)StatCrux Wrote: I think the theory requires much closer scrutiny and in time will be shown to be false as its understood at this moment.

Why?