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Is Hellfire A Bible Teaching?
#21
RE: Is Hellfire A Bible Teaching?
Me thinks you are fuil of shit, Alter...but then, I've thought that for quite some time now.

http://bible.cc/matthew/5-22.htm

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New International Version (©1984)
But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca,' is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.

New Living Translation (©2007)
But I say, if you are even angry with someone, you are subject to judgment! If you call someone an idiot, you are in danger of being brought before the court. And if you curse someone, you are in danger of the fires of hell.

English Standard Version (©2001)
But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, 'You good-for-nothing,' shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, 'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

International Standard Version (©2008)
But I say to you, anyone who is angry with his brother without a cause will be subject to punishment. And whoever says to his brother 'Raka!' will be subject to the Council. And whoever says 'You fool!' will be subject to hell fire.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
But I am saying to you, that everyone who will be angry against his brother without cause is condemned before the judge, and everyone who will say to his brother, 'I spit on you', is condemned before the assembly, and whoever will say 'You fool.' is condemned to the Gehenna of fire.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
But I can guarantee that whoever is angry with another believer will answer for it in court. Whoever calls another believer an insulting name will answer for it in the highest court. Whoever calls another believer a fool will answer for it in hellfire.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, You fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

American King James Version
But I say to you, That whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whoever shall say, You fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

American Standard Version
but I say unto you, that every one who is angry with his brother shall be in danger of the judgment; and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council; and whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of the hell of fire.

Douay-Rheims Bible
But I say to you, that whosoever is angry with his brother, shall be in danger of the judgment. And whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council. And whosoever shall say, Thou Fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Darby Bible Translation
But I say unto you, that every one that is lightly angry with his brother shall be subject to the judgment; but whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be subject to be called before the sanhedrim; but whosoever shall say, Fool, shall be subject to the penalty of the hell of fire.

English Revised Version
but I say unto you, that every one who is angry with his brother shall be in danger of the judgment; and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council; and whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of the hell of fire.

Webster's Bible Translation
But I say to you, That whoever is angry with his brother without a cause, shall be in danger of the judgment: and whoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell-fire.

Weymouth New Testament
But I say to you that every one who becomes angry with his brother shall be answerable to the magistrate; that whoever says to his brother 'Raca,' shall be answerable to the Sanhedrin; and that whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be liable to the Gehenna of Fire.

World English Bible
But I tell you, that everyone who is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment; and whoever shall say to his brother, 'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council; and whoever shall say, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of the fire of Gehenna.

Young's Literal Translation
but I -- I say to you, that every one who is angry at his brother without cause, shall be in danger of the judgment, and whoever may say to his brother, Empty fellow! shall be in danger of the sanhedrim, and whoever may say, Rebel! shall be in danger of the gehenna of the fire.[/quote]

Apparently many people who have translated this gibberish think you are full of shit, too.
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#22
RE: Is Hellfire A Bible Teaching?
Alter, I don't have the time to properly research your questions, so for the sake of what I want to ask I'll concede that they you are correct, at this point. With that being the case; are you saying that there is no hell, except for the separation from God kind? If I could bring Godschild in on this; GC, would you agree with that?
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#23
RE: Is Hellfire A Bible Teaching?
Its funny how this all knowing "god" thing thought it was a good idea to use a book to clearly convey his message then writes in metafores. Last I checked using open ended figuretive writing and colorfull symbolic garble is not an effective way to communicate anything! If god is real, he is an EPIC FAILURE.
Did I make a good point? thumbs up Smile I cant help it I'm a Kudos whore. P.S. Jesus is a MYTH.
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#24
RE: Is Hellfire A Bible Teaching?
(May 22, 2012 at 2:20 pm)Godschild Wrote: Don't worry you little self to death over this, hell is coming if you do not change.
Don't worry either, the eternal void of oblivion will correct the error of your existence. Same for everyone.

Doesn't matter what you fucking believe or don't believe, everyone with embrace the void of nothingness regardless. Big Grin
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#25
RE: Is Hellfire A Bible Teaching?
The Jewish version of hell that they would "surely die" is the same as the Egyptian where if your soul was not in balance with the weights, your soul would be devoured and destroyed.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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#26
RE: Is Hellfire A Bible Teaching?
(May 22, 2012 at 2:35 pm)Darwinian Wrote:
(May 22, 2012 at 2:20 pm)Godschild Wrote: Don't worry you little self to death over this, hell is coming if you do not change.

What a terrible thing to say. If Jesus is just half the man the Bible promotes him as then he would be deeply saddened that you would resort to using such a snide little backhanded threat like this.

For shame! One might have expected better from someone who purports to follow in the footsteps of such a character.

Though it was a joke, because he does not believe in hell. However it is the truth according to scriptures. Jesus talked about hell many times and said if people do not repent they will go to hell. I guess now you all will get me for preaching again. I've been here for over two years and used that before without warning. Believe this if I decided to preach you would have no problem knowing it. If you're tired of me being here just say so, I'll leave no problem, but don't do it with cheap shots.
(May 22, 2012 at 4:39 pm)gringoperry Wrote: Alter, I don't have the time to properly research your questions, so for the sake of what I want to ask I'll concede that they you are correct, at this point. With that being the case; are you saying that there is no hell, except for the separation from God kind? If I could bring Godschild in on this; GC, would you agree with that?

Why me?
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#27
RE: Is Hellfire A Bible Teaching?
GC Wrote:Why me?

Only because you're the one other Christian, that I noticed, who commented in the thread. I would really need both of you to respond, in order for me to gain any insight, though.
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#28
RE: Is Hellfire A Bible Teaching?
GC, it's not being done with cheap shots. If you said it before, staff missed it. Believe me, if we had seen it, you would have been warned earlier. We're not trying to drive you out. The idea is ridiculous. You were warned for something that is clearly stated in the rules.
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#29
RE: Is Hellfire A Bible Teaching?
Pretty sure Paul invented eternal damnation; it is NOT part of Jewish tradition. The Jewish hell is like Christian purgatory:EVERYONE eventually gets out.

Gehena is NOT hell and never has been,except to desperately bloody minded Christian apologists.


Quote:Judaism does not have a specific doctrine about the afterlife, but it does have a mystical/Orthodox tradition of describing Gehenna. Gehenna is not Hell, but originally a grave and in later times a sort of Purgatory where one is judged based on one's life's deeds, or rather, where one becomes fully aware of one's own shortcomings and negative actions during one's life. The Kabbalah explains it as a "waiting room" (commonly translated as an "entry way") for all souls (not just the wicked). The overwhelming majority of rabbinic thought maintains that people are not in Gehenna forever; the longest that one can be there is said to be 12 months, however there has been the occasional noted exception. Some consider it a spiritual forge where the soul is purified for its eventual ascent to Olam Habah (heb. עולם הבא; lit. "The world to come", often viewed as analogous to Heaven). This is also mentioned in the Kabbalah, where the soul is described as breaking, like the flame of a candle lighting another: the part of the soul that ascends being pure and the "unfinished" piece being reborn.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell#Judaism


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell#Judaism
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#30
RE: Is Hellfire A Bible Teaching?
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