I just hope all you motherfuckers have your money to get across Styx. Aiza, you don't want to be stuck, do you?

Charon doesn't do charity cases.

Why do Christians stick with such a boring afterlife. When I die, I want to either be a god or explore all of space and time. That's actually exciting. Worshiping some old tyrant forever sounds like shit.

Because they are boring people.

Heaven is full of pussy. And I'm hard like 24/7. And there's beer and music and fun and jokes. Christians who want to sing hymns and pray all day long can go to hell, pun intended.

(June 7, 2012 at 8:43 pm)Epimethean Wrote: Aiza, what was your purpose in sharing this garbage?

Because I actually have heard much the same argument as his alluded to in some posts by atheists in this forum and others (including in this thread ). I knew that these ideas are common in Eastern traditions (Orthodox Churches), though in the Western traditions they are a bit more rare. I think its interesting to read how the exact same argument matches up on the other side.

(June 7, 2012 at 6:09 am)Gaest Wrote:

(June 7, 2012 at 2:17 am)Aiza Wrote: in the presence of God out of their hate for him;.

Then I must be in the clear, since I do not hate God...

Guess again.

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(June 7, 2012 at 7:45 pm)libalchris Wrote:

(June 7, 2012 at 6:50 pm)Aiza Wrote: Annihilationism? I think the idea there is that "do what I want or I will kill you" is sort of a conflict with the idea of free will, making it so that the choices you have are to be holy or...nothing at all!

Mainstream Christianity has people choosing their own state of union with God.

Well considering how miserable hell is supposed to be I think I'd rather choose to die, will God grant me free will if I ask to die? Or what if I choose to accept Jesus Christ as my Lord in savior in hell and repent. Where's my free will there?

No, against the rules, not any, one will be free to hate God as much as one's miserable life can stand.

(June 8, 2012 at 12:38 am)Aiza Wrote:

(June 7, 2012 at 8:43 pm)Epimethean Wrote: Aiza, what was your purpose in sharing this garbage?

Because I actually have heard much the same argument as his alluded to in some posts by atheists in this forum and others (including in this thread ). I knew that these ideas are common in Eastern traditions (Orthodox Churches), though in the Western traditions they are a bit more rare. I think its interesting to read how the exact same argument matches up on the other side.

Oh, but of course ...

(June 8, 2012 at 3:06 am)Godschild Wrote:

(June 7, 2012 at 6:09 am)Gaest Wrote: Then I must be in the clear, since I do not hate God...

Guess again.

Then I will be rewarded with 72 virgins, since I do not hate God...

I don't hate god either.

How can you hate a fictional character?

(June 8, 2012 at 7:08 am)Zen Badger Wrote: I don't hate god either.

How can you hate a fictional character?

I don't hate Him either but I find I have little sympathy for the character. The Jesus character is much more appealing. The apple fell very far from that tree.