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RE: I can feel your anger
July 7, 2012 at 3:12 am
(This post was last modified: July 7, 2012 at 3:16 am by The Grand Nudger.)
"You can't explain [take your pick] ergo god"? Not sure it works like that amigo.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: I can feel your anger
July 7, 2012 at 3:42 am
Not saying it does.
Are you saying "You can't explain, therefore no god?"
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RE: I can feel your anger
July 7, 2012 at 3:43 am
Nah, I say, no god, therefore no god. Much simpler.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: I can feel your anger
July 7, 2012 at 3:53 am
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(July 6, 2012 at 3:47 pm)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote: (July 6, 2012 at 2:53 pm)CliveStaples Wrote: What black/white bullshit? Can you give me a better way of looking at it that doesn't have this 'black/white bullshit'?
You can't possibly be that fucking stupid.
(July 6, 2012 at 3:05 pm)CliveStaples Wrote: Okay, done with your trolling. Ignored!
That is fucking TrollSpeak for "I refuse to concede that you have utterly destroyed my bullshit."
Got your pelt hanging on my fencepost, twat.
(July 6, 2012 at 3:47 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: You haven't put him on ignore yet?
I don't do "Ignore", but thanks for the sentiment 
Interesting that your whole approach consists of denying and abusing, but consistently lack any ability to rationalise what you consider to believe to be true. Or don't you consider anything? That's my guess.
You'd have been perfect for the Spanish inquisition with your traits, shame you missed out?
(July 7, 2012 at 3:43 am)Rhythm Wrote: Nah, I say, no god, therefore no god. Much simpler.
Yeah simple indeed.
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RE: I can feel your anger
July 7, 2012 at 10:20 am
(July 7, 2012 at 3:53 am)Selliedjoup Wrote: Interesting that your whole approach consists of denying and abusing, but consistently lack any ability to rationalise what you consider to believe to be true. Or don't you consider anything? That's my guess.
You'd have been perfect for the Spanish inquisition with your traits, shame you missed out?
Like most other atheists I deny the existence of any god due the dearth of evidence. I do have a rationalization that supports my position.
Consider an extinction event that wiped out humanity. Also consider that at some point in the future evolution gives rise to another sentient and reasoning species. This species could rediscover the same facts of existence humanity has, but would be unable to recreate humanity's gods and holy texts. This does not bode well for the plausibility of any god claim.
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RE: I can feel your anger
July 7, 2012 at 10:36 am
Clive, are you seriously whining about not receiving polite responses when, for the most part, you were the one that started with the underhanded insults, condescension, and talking-down-to attitude in most of the replies you've made to other people so far? I for one can remember that way back in like...page 11 or 12 or so.
Dammit, I get distracted by Sims 3 for a day, come back, and this thread has ballooned another 23 pages. Sunuvabitch.
I'll read the next few replies then jump back in the water once I gather what point we're at again. Unless the Sims distracts me again.
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RE: I can feel your anger
July 7, 2012 at 10:55 am
(July 7, 2012 at 3:07 am)Selliedjoup Wrote: Stereo types rule.
Atheists generally possess all of the traits you list above, so why are you here? Unless you don't enjoy flinging shit around (as I obviously do). however that doesn't mean I don't mean everything I say.
If one person could explain why the total amount of energy equalling zero, or 'time' not beginning at the big bang (thereby removing causality) I will be on my merry way, until then I'll stick around and wait for the "get fucked you cunt" to somehow equate to the explanation I'm seeking.
We don't have to explain any of that; that's for the scientists to do. We're on the same page here, by the way. I don't get how causality is removed and time didn't exist before the big bang. You won't get a "get fucked, you cunt" from me, either.
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RE: I can feel your anger
July 7, 2012 at 11:04 am
(July 6, 2012 at 11:38 pm)Selliedjoup Wrote: Atheists disbelieve in a god, and then assert it's rational to due so, but lack any validated means to disbelieve. It's as rational as saying a god does exist.
What 'validated means' do I need when I respond, " I don't believe your claim. Please provide me with demonstrable evidence, reasoned argument and valid logic to support it", when a theists claims a god exists?
Belief is a binary mental state. Either one has the active belief that a god exists, or they do not have that belief.
Atheism is simply not having the belief that a god exists. It is not necessarily the belief that a god does not exist.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: I can feel your anger
July 7, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Indeed. I have never borne a child nor given birth. Not out of some active attempts to prevent carrying a child, but simply because, as a male, I lack the necessary equipment to gestate. By the same token, I have never believed in gods nor worshipped same. Not out of some active attempts to deny their existence, but simply because, as an atheist, I lack the necessary belief to engender such faith.
I honestly don't know how much more simple we can make this and still be able to communicate.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: I can feel your anger
July 7, 2012 at 12:51 pm
(July 7, 2012 at 12:48 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Indeed. I have never borne a child nor given birth. Not out of some active attempts to prevent carrying a child, but simply because, as a male, I lack the necessary equipment to gestate. By the same token, I have never believed in gods nor worshipped same. Not out of some active attempts to deny their existence, but simply because, as an atheist, I lack the necessary belief to engender such faith.
I honestly don't know how much more simple we can make this and still be able to communicate.
Doesn't matter how simple you make it, either they refuse to accept it or they're really fucking stupid.
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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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