(November 15, 2012 at 4:40 pm)Daniel Wrote: Nice to see what a mature bunch of "freethinkers" this is "he's trolling, he's trolling". Oh like they don't attack Christianity in every thread, and thrall out personal insults - but something as simple as asking why they push their agenda gets them all worked up! LOL

If you haven't noticed this is Atheist Forums. I don't go on to Christian forums and tell people they're wrong. If someone asks me point blank if I'm religious, I answer honestly and tell them, "No." If it comes up in conversation, I don't hide the fact that I'm an atheist. Now if they ask why, then that's an invitation...

(November 15, 2012 at 6:18 am)Darnem Wrote:

(November 15, 2012 at 6:13 am)5thHorseman Wrote: Atheism isn't a religion. Try harder.

Yeah but don't Atheists know that you can't have morality without God? It seems like Atheists just want an excuse to not have to abide by God's moral code so they can do whatever they want.

Obvious troll is obvious, again. Do not capitalise the a in atheist either.

WB Napo...and with a certain masculine attractiveness no-less.

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(November 15, 2012 at 4:46 pm)Daniel Wrote: You were simply asked by the OP why you push your agenda, I'm not interested in giving examples I'm just pointing out that being asked why you push it gets you guys all worked up!

Why do you push your "non flying spaghetti monster" beliefs to us pirates?
Why do you force your children's schools to refrain from holding our FSM revival meetings and keep the poor children from praying to his holy noodliness? Why do you not love our country founded on the love of pasta?
Why do you have so much hate in you not to accept his spicy goodness?
Look around, can you not see the world that his noodliness has made for you? You can't prove that his holiness the Flying Spaghetti Monster isn't real and didn't create the world!

(November 15, 2012 at 4:40 pm)Daniel Wrote: Nice to see what a mature bunch of "freethinkers" this is "he's trolling, he's trolling". Oh like they don't attack Christianity in every thread, and thrall out personal insults - but something as simple as asking why they push their agenda gets them all worked up! LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ViF6JRNjTk

Yep, it was an insult. You say dumb things, I'm gonna call you dumb.

I did answer; I don't go out of my way to push my beliefs onto anyone else. Now, if someone tries to impose their beliefs on me, I am well within my rights to tell them that their beliefs are bullshit and I won't hesitate to do that. But you aren't going to see me marching into a church or even an online Christian forum and telling them to all give up their imaginary friend. Simply put, I won't invade your space to tell you what to believe as long as you show me the same respect. Idiot OP obviously didn't follow that rule.

That being said, I would like it if more people became atheists. Fact is, in a democracy like ours, popularity is political power and I'm tired of having to vote for the politician who professes to hate us the least. I'm tired of having to have some yahoo try to post the Ten Commandments all over public land and often get away with it. I'm tired of having idiots tell me that my being queer is someone interfering with their freedom of religion. And if spreading the word about atheism will help me resolve any of those problems, I won't hesitate for a second to do it.

That being said, at least most people who profess to be Christian are fairly apathetic about it or at least they can be reasonable with it.

(November 15, 2012 at 5:08 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You mean you wouldn't get worked up if someone claimed you were pushing an agenda when you weren't?

Oh please, as if I start playing victim when I'm attacked here, give me some credit!

Quote:Hmn...... You, like the OP, aren't interested in presenting examples of this..it's more important to just say something. I get it..I get alot of it recently. It works me up.

Why should I point out examples if it will only throw fuel onto the fire. Get past it and stop being so petty.

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(November 15, 2012 at 5:08 pm)Napoléon Wrote: 2. We don't attack christianity in every thread, but guess what dipshit, see what it says at the top of the page?? "ATHEIST FORUMS". Yeah, funnily enough the majority of us here are atheists. Fucking unbelievable right? How peculiar we have something to say when ignoramuses like you come along to spout your gospel crap.

You know, it's unfucking believable to me that you can't act more mature than that. You think that if you want to come and join a Christian forum you'll be forced to adhere to a Christian faith? Funny isn't it that atheism is supposedly about free thought, and yet when others exercise their God-given right to it you see a big fat f-ing problem!

As for calling me "dipshit" and "ignorant" you only proved my exact point, that many of the posters here are incapable of civil discussion without resorting to petty insults and name-calling. Why don't grow up already?

Quote:3. The OP didn't just ask a question, he was simultaneously ignorant, pedantic and offensive. First he mistook atheism for a religion, which is ignorant.

Firstly, "religion" and "agenda" are somewhat synonymous, and I would suggest he used the word in place of agenda to draw attention to the "movement type" aspect of your beliefs (/faith). If you don't like atheism being described as a religion, then here's a thought for you - stop describing Christianity as a religion.

And you're not the thought-police, he can think whatever he wants, no matter how stupid those thoughts may be.

Quote:He then tarred every atheist with the same brush by saying we push our atheism on people (whilst also being a massive fucking hypocrite for being here in the first place), and then went on to imply we should be able to prove a negative.

And you show your intelligence by asserting you know the exact reason why he's here. Why don't you enlighten me by telling me why I'm here as well?

Quote:Now, Danny boy, if you don't bloody like it, you know what you can do.

Yes I can post intelligently with integrity. Can you do the same?

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(November 15, 2012 at 5:11 pm)festive1 Wrote: If you haven't noticed this is Atheist Forums.

So the behaviour I see here is typical of atheism then?

(November 15, 2012 at 4:40 pm)Daniel Wrote: Nice to see what a mature bunch of "freethinkers" this is "he's trolling, he's trolling". Oh like they don't attack Christianity in every thread, and thrall out personal insults - but something as simple as asking why they push their agenda gets them all worked up! LOL

If you were having a conversation with friends and a bloke suddenly joined in without introducing himself just to start making disingenious questions, inplying stuff about you that are utterly untrue, you wouldn't like it either.

There are ways to know the demeanor in wich a question is asked. If your fellow religionist was truly making an honest question, he would have phrased it like this: I hear that atheism is a religion and they try to push it unto others, is this true?; or: Where do atheists get their morality from?

Phrasing is very important in a civil conversation, and if that guy truly was interested in having such, he would've introduced himself properly, then asked things in that way. You aren't here long enough to assert that hit and run trolls are one of the most prolific ones around. They are not interested in hearing what we say, they are interested in saying what they think of us and go to their fellows claiming he as 'pwned' atheists.

Hi again guys. How marvelous to see that you've continued this thread on without me.
I also find it quite amusing that you guys are getting so worked up over my little question. I think it's just because you Atheists are butthurt with your lives and are angry at God.

(November 16, 2012 at 5:59 am)LastPoet Wrote: If you were having a conversation with friends and a bloke suddenly joined in without introducing himself just to start making disingenious questions, inplying stuff about you that are utterly untrue, you wouldn't like it either.

There are ways to know the demeanor in wich a question is asked. If your fellow religionist was truly making an honest question, he would have phrased it like this: I hear that atheism is a religion and they try to push it unto others, is this true?; or: Where do atheists get their morality from?

You have a unique ability - the ability to group me together with anyone you think belongs to my "group". My point was that you guys had nothing to be fired up about other than your egos.

Quote:Phrasing is very important in a civil conversation, and if that guy truly was interested in having such, he would've introduced himself properly, then asked things in that way. You aren't here long enough to assert that hit and run trolls are one of the most prolific ones around. They are not interested in hearing what we say, they are interested in saying what they think of us and go to their fellows claiming he as 'pwned' atheists.

You can't just expect other people to behave the way you want them to, and then complain about them when they don't.

(November 16, 2012 at 6:05 am)Darnem Wrote: Hi again guys. How marvelous to see that you've continued this thread on without me.
I also find it quite amusing that you guys are getting so worked up over my little question. I think it's just because you Atheists are butthurt with your lives and are angry at God.

Yeah, the same way we're angry at Santa Claus.

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(November 16, 2012 at 5:09 am)Daniel Wrote: You know, it's unfucking believable to me that you can't act more mature than that. You think that if you want to come and join a Christian forum you'll be forced to adhere to a Christian faith? Funny isn't it that atheism is supposedly about free thought, and yet when others exercise their God-given right to it you see a big fat f-ing problem!

What will actually happen is that if you join a christian forum as an atheist you will get banned almost immediately.