Quote:So we can see clearly God never put an adulterer to death

(December 11, 2012 at 8:53 pm)FutureAndAHope Wrote: So we can see clearly God never put an adulterer to death

(December 9, 2012 at 12:19 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: Through my comparative study, I've noticed that of all religious people within history, none shares as big of a difference in point of view in character and merit amongst people than Muhammad. While muslims see Muhammad as the prophet of islam, a honest, decent, loving messenger of God, and the greatest example for humanity on the best way to live, many non-muslims see Muhammad as not only a false prophet, but attribute some of the most degrading and immoral characteristics and behavior to Muhammad. Such a completely different view of muslims.


I've analyzed the the qur'an and sunnah of Muhammad thoroughly and have seen nothing of the point of view that non-muslims share which makes me ask the question, "where do these differences come from?" Is Muhammad the greatest example of the best way to conduct ourselves? Let's have a discussion.

(December 11, 2012 at 8:53 pm)FutureAndAHope Wrote:

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Laws in the bible were only preventative, if you see my following study you will see God never had an adulterer put to death, rather he pardoned them. Harsh laws bring fear of breaking them, soft laws do nothing, only offer advice.

And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him. 1Jn 4:16

So if God is love, why do certain scriptures in the Old Testament Law appear very harsh, surely a good God would not do anything harsh. Well the reason is preventative, as I will show from scripture. The law is put in place in an attempt to prevent crime. Like we have jail and fines to try to deter crime. Obviously the stricter the punishment then the less likely a person is to offend. We will now move onto a case study from scripture to show the law is in fact preventative. Take the following law:

"'If a man commits adultery with another man's wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death. Lev 20:10

So if you read that verse alone you might think well God is fairly judgmental and bitter, he just wants to kill people for weakness, and sin. But what we find in he rest of scripture is that God never put one adulterer to death, in fact he pardoned them. Take the following three examples:

a) David the guy who slaid Goliath had sex with another mans wife, David then even had the guy killed to cover up the fact that Uriah did not have sex with his wife. Yet the prophet of God who God sent to tell David off, a man who knew God's character and had conversations with God, let him live, and did not ask any one to kill him. The prophet did not agree with his sin, in fact he said God would curse him for a time for it.

b) Jesus pardoned a woman caught in the act of adultery, saying to the angry mob about to stone her to death, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." Joh 8:7 only saying to her when they all left "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?" "No one, sir," she said. "Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."

c) Joseph was called "righteous", or good by the apostles because he refused to have his girlfriend put to death (made a public example) when it was found out she was pregnant. And Joseph her husband, being a righteous man, and not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away privily.. Mat 1:19

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So we can see clearly God never put an adulterer to death

(December 11, 2012 at 2:18 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: This thread needs more Tinky Winky.

(December 11, 2012 at 10:49 pm)KichigaiNeko Wrote:

(December 11, 2012 at 2:18 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: This thread needs more Tinky Winky.

Have we already seen LaLa and Po?

(December 11, 2012 at 10:31 pm)cato123 Wrote: What a load of shit. God says kill adulterers, you give examples from the bible showing that followers don't kill adulterers. You conclude that god never put an adulterer to death; this wasn't the claim. God never said that he would put an adulterer to death; he proclaimed that his followers do the dirty work. The biblical examples you give showing that they didn't put to death adulterers only proves that god's most earnest followers thought he was full of shit on the subject.