(October 26, 2009 at 6:03 pm)Tiberius Wrote: You are very welcome to post here ManOfScience, however as Rhizo pointed out, we'd very much like it if you posted an introduction first

Oops! Will go and do it right away.

(October 26, 2009 at 5:07 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: 2. In cases where such a belief may be consoling to an individual, as I said...that doesn't make the belief true!

If faith can console an individual, then it follows that believers can be enabled to do more good. Giving more is what it's all about...

This should make it clear to you that faith is effective - making faith very reasonable to caring people. There is no hope for the unbeliever, which is why they are limited to an "ebb and flow" when it comes to doing good.

Quote:This should make it clear to you that faith is effective

No. It shows that people can con themselves into believing damn near anything.

(October 26, 2009 at 11:09 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:This should make it clear to you that faith is effective

No. It shows that people can con themselves into believing damn near anything.

Like the existence of electrons? These beliefs produce real results and are useful. Consolation - hope - these are needed by humans very much, so that they may operate at their best.

Electrons can be measured and studied. Your fucking god is a fairy tale.

Learn the difference.

(October 26, 2009 at 5:15 pm)ManOfScience Wrote:

(October 10, 2009 at 4:32 pm)solarwave Wrote: When the universe began space and time began too.

Have you read much about string theory? That time started with the Big Bang is, in fact, debatable.

Anyway, it's very nice to see that we allow such open discussion here. I recently posted a few of my own observations (nothing offensive, no personal attacks, etc.) on godandscience.org, and, would you believe it, my post was very quickly deleted.

Hey ManOfScience!

I havn't read much of the details of String Theory. Isn't string theory still in development though and still open to alot of change and so may not be amazingly reliable at the moment. Correct me if Im wrong.

Anyway as part of my arguement I argued that there had to be a start of time (the infinite regress bit).

(October 28, 2009 at 10:41 am)Minimalist Wrote: Electrons can be measured and studied. Your fucking god is a fairy tale.

Learn the difference.

A person can be consoled and enabled. God works.

Consolation has fuck all to do with the reality of the matter of whether "God" exists or not, your statement is bullshit.

And what on earth are you referring to when you say "enabled"?

EvF

Well it enables you to blow up infidels. It enables you to stone women to death when they didn't scream hard enough when they got raped.

Oops, I forgot. How silly of me!

EvF