Above is not an Islamic definition btw.

Apparently a Shaivite definition. (But a different opinion on the same thing)

(April 25, 2013 at 4:48 am)Dawud Wrote: Above is not an Islamic definition btw.

Apparently a Shaivite definition. (But a different opinion on the same thing)

I edited.
Krishna is Supreme Lord btw.

God (ˈgäd):
"the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe"

or

"a being or object believed to have more than natural attributes and powers and to require human worship; (...)"
(Merriam-Webster)

(April 25, 2013 at 4:32 am)Dawud Wrote: Shorter version:

God is one without the ability to pluralise,
God relies on nothing to sustain Him,
God does not Beget (use part of Him to create another - or pass on the role of God), nor was God born (necessary being),
And there is nothing exactly like God. (Nothing we can imagine is God).

And therein lies my problem. Nothing I can imagine makes any sense as god. Neither can I think of any purpose in god(s). The 99 descriptions you provided all seem to be roles for functions I'm not at all sure need an overseer. Or else they just seem obtusely contradictory like the "restrictor" and the "reliever", or, the "subduer" and the "merciful".

Would it be asking too much to request a fill-in the blank answer to my question?

If anything does _____________________ , it is God or a god.

Definition of God:

A noise my wife makes during sex.

No, no, Cato, that's just a case of mis-identification.
(I've always wondered if the inherent creepiness of that urge ever crossed the minds of those who exhibit it, btw)

"Oh god...oh god"

"Uh, no...still just just me....but if you want me to leave so the two of you can have a minute alone....."

(April 25, 2013 at 12:08 am)whateverist Wrote: [quote='God is a Loophole' pid='436226' dateline='1366860514']
Whoever said that sounds like a pantheist. However, atheists must concede that technically, according to the letter of the law (the law being the dictionary of definitions) then God is existence...or to cherry pick God is the Supreme Being. If you are confused, I can repeat my first post called "The Supreme Being for Dummies"

Sounds just like what I need. I am a complete incompetent when it comes to making any sense of what a god may be.

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here is my cut and paste from my introduction....

The Supreme Being for Dummies To be or not to be.
Are we being?
Yes.
Is the universe being?
Yes.
Does the universe rely on any external power for its being?
No.
Therefore, is the universe supreme?
Yes.
Finally, is the universe a supreme being?
Yes...but....
But is the universe a Supreme Being?
Well...um...yes...I mean no...it depends on whether you mean a rock is a being...or a Being...um....help!

I have no idea why everyone seems to be posting non-sense and avoiding the subject.

The definition of a god (or at least God) according to Islam is set by both the Hadith (Sayings of Mohammed that never made it into the Koran) as well as the Koran itself. There are 99 attributes aka "names" that define "God". These names are sometimes used to refer to God.



In Islam God is the creator of everything; Heaven and earth, the sun, moon and the planets, man, animals... well you get the picture.
He (yes it's a HE) is immortal. Existed and will always exist. Was not created. Omnipotent, omni-benevolent, omni-sapient, omniscient, and omnipresent. He was not born and did not give birth (although the later is understood generally as he has no child.)
God is capable of extreme punishment or great mercy.

When people die, the soul goes back to him.
Mohammed was supposedly asked once about where God is to which he responded "he is closer to you than your own carotid."

In Arabic the word Allah is a contraction of Al Ilah. Which both mean "The God". This is contrary to what a lot of people who do not know Arabic claim; that Allah and God are not the same. Christians use the same word in the Arabic bibles.



Notice the small "w" with a vertical line on top. This is a shaddah (it doubles the letter below it) above it a superscript alef to make the second a in allah a long "A".

(April 25, 2013 at 4:32 am)Dawud Wrote: 16. Al-Qahhar (القهار) The Subduer
19. Al-Fattah (الفتاح) The Opener
21. Al-Qabid (القابض) The Constrictor
22. Al-Basit (الباسط) The Reliever
23. Al-Khafid (الخافض) The Abaser
26. Al-Mudhill (المذل) The Humiliator
55. Al-Matin (المتين) The Forceful One

God sounds a little "rapey"

(April 25, 2013 at 1:03 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: God sounds a little "rapey"

That's because you're reading the english ones (very badly translated btw)

16. Al-Qahhar (القهار) The Subduer (usually of enemy warriors and enemies)

19. Al-Fattah (الفتاح) The Opener (In this case opening of cities. Conquering cities, that is. That's why the Muslim Conquests were called "Al Fateh Al Islami"

21. Al-Qabid (القابض) The Constrictor. It's more like the one who grips. Can also be understood as one who gets paid, or harvests souls.

22. Al-Basit (الباسط) The Reliever
23. Al-Khafid (الخافض) The Abaser
26. Al-Mudhill (المذل) The Humiliator
55. Al-Matin (المتين) The Forceful One <- Wrong translation. This mean the durable one. The sturdy one.