So....are we going to discuss the pertinent 12% of the OP, or are you going to continue complaining about the negative responses your highly judgmental OP got? If one of us made a post like that about religion on a theistic forum, we'd probably be banned.

If you want to discuss the OP then you must also ignore being insulted and just discuss the 12% of your OP that was actually on topic.

Now then: atheists don't necessarily believe the universe came from nothing. Many do not. As for nihilism, which sort of nihilism are you inquiring about?

(May 6, 2013 at 11:24 pm)Harris Wrote: 3. Disrespect is what atheism is all about

Humanity as a whole is about disrespect. Respect should never be freely given, but conscientiously earned. With an obviously disrespectful first original post as one's first post on this forum, you do not deserve respect from anyone here, Harris.

(May 6, 2013 at 11:24 pm)Harris Wrote: Not in the first post and not in any of my responses I used any humiliating words but you guys have took full advantage to put the nose of a Muslim in real shit. By using freedom of speech, I have put all my thoughts with honesty without any disguise. As I understood, you felt humiliated from my post because maybe:

1. I am saying true that this site truly contain disrespect to human beings on the foundation of anti-religious attitude or
2. You guys don’t have proper answer to my question or my question is far above your anticipation levels. To avoid that question you have took attacking strategy and tried your level best to kill my morals or
3. Disrespect is what atheism is all about

I may be correct or I may be wrong but I feel firm in my opinion specially after receiving your insane responses. If you have superiority or inferiority complexes then I am not to be blamed for that.

I have demonstrated real human attitude against your real abusive behaviour.

You haven't proven yourself worthy of anything more than ridicule and dismissal. Try being decent and maybe you will receive a more positive response. And clearly, you don't know what abuse is.

(May 6, 2013 at 11:24 pm)Harris Wrote:

(May 6, 2013 at 9:49 pm)Dragonetti Wrote: Now I am a naughty teenager? Please inform me of which country your shitty fucking parent shit you out from?

You find my language offensive, yet when I find your opening offensive, you resort to name calling. Also, this is freedom of speech, and they are just words, which apparently you have given power. People will use this device to until you are immune to the words.

Not in the first post and not in any of my responses I used any humiliating words but you guys have took full advantage to put the nose of a Muslim in real shit. By using freedom of speech, I have put all my thoughts with honesty without any disguise. As I understood, you felt humiliated from my post because maybe:

1. I am saying true that this site truly contain disrespect to human beings on the foundation of anti-religious attitude or
2. You guys don’t have proper answer to my question or my question is far above your anticipation levels. To avoid that question you have took attacking strategy and tried your level best to kill my morals or
3. Disrespect is what atheism is all about

I may be correct or I may be wrong but I feel firm in my opinion specially after receiving your insane responses. If you have superiority or inferiority complexes then I am not to be blamed for that.

I have demonstrated real human attitude against your real abusive behaviour.

Fortunately, I have two literate responses on this site, which are encouraging. These gentlemen seems to be learned people as they have not gone crazy from my post. A learned man can take any critique with patience because he is confident on his knowledge.

Normally, if a person tries to run away from the field he takes support from scandal. I am one and alone man firmly standing in front of you guys and has courage to take intense pounding over my head without any reason. That is because I am confident that I can take your questions about Islam, Christianity, and somewhat Judaism. I was prepared for discussions over phenomenon like nihilism, eternity, logic, transcendentalism, and science. Regretfully I have to say again vocabulary of most of the members on this site is limited to FUCKING, SHITTING, DOG, ASSHOLE.

If you want to prove Islam, Christianity, Judaism to be wrong then talk with arguments not with abuses. Give your reason why you don’t believe and I will give my reason why I believe. By using abusive language, you are only showing your level of intellect as well as you demonstrate your weakness to protect your ideas.

I still have my question open for all you guys. If you want to ask anything on religion then feel free to ask. I am not from those Muslims who become abusive like you guys when they don’t have answer.

If I don’t know something I don’t feel shy to expose my lack of knowledge. If I can learn something useful from you guys then I would be happy for that. Teach me atheism by reasoning but please no more lessons of (FUCKING, SHITTING, HOLES ETC.)

So, I am disrespecting because I am an atheist. I guess with your thick skull, you do not see why you are being disrespectful to many of the atheist here, such hypocrisy. Always treat people the way you want to be treated. Your initial post was very very very disrespectful to many here. Why do you apologize to the people here for not having the same beliefs? I might agree with your beliefs, but I will respect them, if you are initially respectful, and do try to enforce your beliefs on me. You have been socially excluded from the rest of society, since it is evil! Well, WELCOME TO REAL LIFE!

We have answered the underlying question about atheism. We do not believe in any GOD! Nothing more! It is simple, but you want to make it complex.

I gave the information about coming from nothing. The theory is explained in many of Lawrence Krauss books. You are lumping science with atheism, which is wrong.

Since, you do not mind typing the words, I guess they are not that offensive.

FUCK THE FUCKING FUCKERS! Fuck the most useful word in the English Dictionary!

(May 6, 2013 at 7:19 pm)Harris Wrote: Listen boy, I love to have a chat with you but unfortunately you speak in language that I don’t understand.

English is my only lingo pardner. I suspect English is not your first language my main man.

But, my mom says I shouldn't talk to strangers on the internet. They might some kind of sexy pervert, whatever that is? Are you one of them internet pervs dude?

Quote:Have a nice day.

I always strive to do just that.

(May 6, 2013 at 11:24 pm)Harris Wrote: As I understood, you felt humiliated from my post because maybe:

1. I am saying true that this site truly contain disrespect to human beings on the foundation of anti-religious attitude or
2. You guys don’t have proper answer to my question or my question is far above your anticipation levels. To avoid that question you have took attacking strategy and tried your level best to kill my morals or
3. Disrespect is what atheism is all about

I may be correct or I may be wrong but I feel firm in my opinion specially after receiving your insane responses. If you have superiority or inferiority complexes then I am not to be blamed for that.

There must be special labs underground where Christians and Muslims think up newer and more extreme misapplications of the law of the excluded middle.

Honestly, with the possible exception of Rayaan, I've yet to meet a single Muslim on this forum who wasn't a complete and total fucktard. These Muslims make Christians like GC look like Rhodes scholars.

And for what it's worth, I didn't feel humiliated by your OP, I felt insulted and offended, and a bit outraged. You're just another culturally insensitive bigot, here to tell us how your bigotry is justified and well-founded. That's certainly something we've never seen before. I think you caught us by surprise on that one.

Harris/ Poe or what ever you think you are.

You have been given multiple answers to research regarding the current hypotheses concerning the beginning of the universe as we know it. It is up to you to research that information for yourself and realise that you would have to have the understanding of a Physics Phd to get anything like a "complete" hypothesis.

You obviously did not do any research prior to posting on this forum as evidenced by your OP and continual derision of the members here.

No you are a Poe or a troll and I am doubting very much that you are muslim.

You have your answers.... now goodbye

Harris Wrote:Is there any atheist in the world who can explain what exactly is “NOTHINGNESS or NIHILISM?”

If it could be explained and given a certain portrait, then it would cease to be "nothingness" and start being *something*.

Atheists may have a tendency to use colorful profanity when we disagree with others. Muslim havr a tendency to use homemade explosives when they disagree with others, in accordance with Muslim teaching. I am not sure what makes us worse.r

I do not believe the universe came from nothing. I think i don't know what started it. I am sure you don't know any more about it than I do. I am just not stupid enough to think that ancient books inspired by the mad and superstitious ramblings of illiterate ignorants is where the answers to such profound questions lie.

(May 6, 2013 at 11:24 pm)Harris Wrote: Not in the first post and not in any of my responses I used any humiliating words

Understand this, you don't need to use profanities in order to be insulting. Your OP was loaded and instantly showed your disdain for atheists, of which you clearly have a screwed and biased opinion. And you have shown over and over again that you do not understand at all what atheism is about. But I will address that later in this post.

Quote:By using freedom of speech, I have put all my thoughts with honesty without any disguise.

A commendable notion, but if your thoughts are worth less than than the sand you walk upon, don't be surprised when people respond accordingly.

Quote:1. I am saying true that this site truly contain disrespect to human beings on the foundation of anti-religious attitude

As e.g. Maelstrom pointed out, respect needs to be deserved. Putting all religious labels aside, you too are a fellow human being and are worthy the respect of being a hominid entails. But it ends there. If you don't bring any thought-worthy to the table, you will not earn any additional respect.
I also have the feeling that you have been cherry-picking and as I earlier mentioned that you are full of confirmation bias. How come that you missed all the wonderful threads about love, friendship and happiness?
Nor will you find anti-religious attitudes as a whole on this site. Some of our members are indeed that, but unless it has escaped your attention, we have a muslim administrator, two deist moderators and lots of loved religious folks on site.

Quote:2. You guys don’t have proper answer to my question or my question is far above your anticipation levels. To avoid that question you have took attacking strategy and tried your level best to kill my morals

The question I believe was about the beginnings of the universe. You have got plenty of answers. They might not be to your liking and it might not have been what you anticipated.

Quote:3. Disrespect is what atheism is all about

Maybe third time's the charm. Atheism is only about the stance on gods. An atheist do not believe in any gods. If someone is according to you disrespectful, it is the person, not the creed that determines it.

Quote:I may be correct or I may be wrong but I feel firm in my opinion specially after receiving your insane responses. If you have superiority or inferiority complexes then I am not to be blamed for that.

You are a pebble on a hill. Your initial action started this avalanche, and yes, it's all on you whether you like it or not. You could have come here and started a not quite so loaded OP and you would have a discussion. I might be going out on a limb, but I think I know my fellow members well enough to say that the responses you got was because no one bothered to prove you wrong. As you said, you feel firm in your opinions and frankly, after that quite idiotic introduction nobody is keen to have you around for any longer, so why not give you only that which you thought you were about to receive. Few here care enough about the opinion of one in order to feel like they have to prove anything to you.

Quote:Fortunately, I have two literate responses on this site, which are encouraging. These gentlemen seems to be learned people as they have not gone crazy from my post. A learned man can take any critique with patience because he is confident on his knowledge.

It is good that you recognize this. Funnily enough, one of them is one of the ones you seemed to abhor, a teenager. Let that sink in for a while.

Quote: I was prepared for discussions over phenomenon like nihilism, eternity, logic, transcendentalism, and science.

Why not say that in the OP, instead of all your derogatory notions of what you think an atheist is about?

Quote:Give your reason why you don’t believe and I will give my reason why I believe.

Not interested. I highly doubt you have anything new and mind-blowing to bring to the table.

Quote:I am not from those Muslims who become abusive like you guys when they don’t have answer.

No, instead you were abusive, insensitive and ignorant well from the start.