(May 10, 2013 at 4:21 pm)Raven Wrote: Not true. Magic, by definition, is a supernatural occurrence. It would be something against the laws of physics.

No, it just looks that way to those who have a limited understanding of physics.

(May 10, 2013 at 4:38 pm)John V Wrote:

(May 10, 2013 at 4:21 pm)Raven Wrote: Not true. Magic, by definition, is a supernatural occurrence. It would be something against the laws of physics.

No, it just looks that way to those who have a limited understanding of physics.

Oh! Glad we got that cleared up. What if God is the supposed magician?

(May 10, 2013 at 2:57 pm)goodnews Wrote: Create you and me, so you could post this silly question ? and I can give you the obvios answer !

Please. My wife is seven months pregnant. I know how to make people.

John V Wrote:Silly question for the religion forum, as theists generally don't consider their god's actions to be magic. It's atheists who term it such. IMO God understands the mechanics of what he does.

Making that admission negates the veracity of supernatural claims. It is an admission that they are just natural mechanics we have yet to figure out. It is either physical phenomena or it is magic.

(May 10, 2013 at 1:55 pm)Ryantology Wrote: ...then, what could a god do that would be absolutely impossible to replicate with sufficiently advanced technology?

Get his followers to shut up about him.

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(May 10, 2013 at 4:34 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:

(May 10, 2013 at 4:21 pm)Raven Wrote: Not true. Magic, by definition, is a supernatural occurrence. It would be something against the laws of physics.

You mean like appearing in two places at the same time or instantaneous communication without interaction or effects preceding their causes. That stuff never happens in physics.

Particles being in two places at once has been a common experiment in quantum mechanics for a couple decades but then for the purposes of high tech there is the person here and his hologram over there.

Feyman diagrams require effects to be before their causes.

Radio and TV are indistinguishable from instantaneous.

No it is not. Any technology can be explained scientifically and presumably understood by sufficient intellect. Magic is simply not the same, it's like faith, unexplainable (and fake).

The stupid will always conclude magic!

Superstition related to primitive religious cultures claim that magic is involved in anything they cannot understand. Modern religious culture has simply dropped the magic, yet not the superstition, for they still believe that a deity is behind technology and science. Anyone who can continue to claim otherworldly influences obviously has little respect or awe for the intellect of man.

(May 10, 2013 at 9:47 pm)Dragonetti Wrote: The stupid will always conclude magic!

Correction. The stupid will always ignore the magic.

(May 10, 2013 at 11:19 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Correction. The stupid will always ignore the magic.

Correction, the stupid will always believe in magic when there is no evidence of its existence.

(May 10, 2013 at 1:55 pm)Ryantology Wrote: ...then, what could a god do that would be absolutely impossible to replicate with sufficiently advanced technology?

Something metaphysical.

Eat a metaphysical orange? Welp... we can't do that.

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(May 10, 2013 at 4:38 pm)John V Wrote: No, it just looks that way to those who have a limited understanding of physics.

Boy... I'd love if magic was real. How many times I've distanced myself from my surroundings and replaced them with <magical universe of the hour>...

Now don't go getting me wrong... I love this universe, and think she's plenty fun, pretty, and interesting. But it gets old