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The End Game of Atheism
RE: The End Game of Atheism
(June 26, 2013 at 3:04 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(June 26, 2013 at 2:49 pm)ShadowWolf1986 Wrote: I was partially trolling, which was part of my secondary goal.

So, you come in here, obviously (and admittedly) trolling, and have the fucking stones to complain about how you're treated in response?

I predict your stay here will be short.

Its the internet, why should I care? Lulz

I don't think I am going to get what I came here for anyway, so my stay will be short.
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RE: The End Game of Atheism
So late to the reply... Sad
I still managed, though...
Damn these trolls that keep adding a page to the thread as soon as I end reading one....

I've hidden my replies so they don't create too much distraction on those just browsing... click the button bellow:

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RE: The End Game of Atheism
(June 26, 2013 at 10:13 am)ShadowWolf1986 Wrote: What is it?

Asked a different way, what is the end goal of Atheism?

What is the end goal of saying 2 + 2 is very likely 4?
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RE: The End Game of Atheism
(June 26, 2013 at 3:04 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(June 26, 2013 at 2:49 pm)ShadowWolf1986 Wrote: I was partially trolling, which was part of my secondary goal.

So, you come in here, obviously (and admittedly) trolling, and have the fucking stones to complain about how you're treated in response?

I predict your stay here will be short.

Ohhhhh .. hmmph! But we were just starting to have fun. Begging

(June 26, 2013 at 3:08 pm)Chuck Wrote:
(June 26, 2013 at 10:13 am)ShadowWolf1986 Wrote: What is it?

Asked a different way, what is the end goal of Atheism?

What is the end goal of saying 2 + 2 is very likely 4?

Sounds like some damned atheist conspiracy to me.
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RE: The End Game of Atheism
(June 26, 2013 at 2:36 pm)ShadowWolf1986 Wrote: My secondary goal was to show you how hypocritical you are so we find some common ground. No one is perfect, not even Christians. However, it quickly spiraled into hurling insults.

I'm not going to try to make hay of you saying our common ground is how hypocritical we both are, it's too easy and I know what you meant.

Funny how trying to convince people they're hypocrites leads to insults. Bet that only happens with atheists, never with Christians, eh?
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RE: The End Game of Atheism
(June 26, 2013 at 3:03 pm)ShadowWolf1986 Wrote: With our lineage has come the knowledge of the Oneness of God,the inheritance of Baptism in Jesus name, and the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues. No one else claims this.

You do know that the passage concerning 'speaking in tongues' is not original to the Bible, right? It is a later addition.

Mark 16:8 is the original ending.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: The End Game of Atheism
(June 26, 2013 at 3:09 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(June 26, 2013 at 2:36 pm)ShadowWolf1986 Wrote: My secondary goal was to show you how hypocritical you are so we find some common ground. No one is perfect, not even Christians. However, it quickly spiraled into hurling insults.

I'm not going to try to make hay of you saying our common ground is how hypocritical we both are, it's too easy and I know what you meant.

Funny how trying to convince people they're hypocrites leads to insults. Bet that only happens with atheists, never with Christians, eh?

Yes, but I am a hypocrite so don't be believe me.

Lulz, dis waz teh funz but now itz time to goez. Bi bi
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RE: The End Game of Atheism
(June 26, 2013 at 10:13 am)ShadowWolf1986 Wrote: What is it?

Asked a different way, what is the end goal of Atheism?

As everyone and their dog has mentioned, there isn't an "end game" to atheism. We just don't buy into your, or anyone else's holy texts.
What I, personally wish to see, in no particular order (I'm in the US, so these will mainly pertain to American issues):
1: A more fair tax exemption system. Currently all a church has to do is say, "We're a church." And they get tax exempt status. Meanwhile, secular organizations have to jump through hoops to prove and maintain their tax exempt status. This is biased towards religious organizations. I would also like to see churches, but not necessarily their charitable organizations lose their tax exempt status. Dependent upon whether or not these religious, charitable organizations pass through the same hoops as their secular cousins.
2: A complete separation of church and state. Of course religious people will still be elected to office, however the way they govern and/or their reasons for proposing/supporting legislation should have no relation to what religion they practice. Also, churches should be held to the no politicking from the pulpit rule, if not followed there should be enforced repercussions.
3: In a similar vein, I'd like to see an end to religious missions overseas. Helping out people is grand, teaching them evangelical dogmas, however, is not. Google: "gay persecution in Uganda" to get an idea of what I'm getting at.
4: I'd like to see some form of protection in place for kids. Both young kids to prevent/limit indoctrination and older teens who are closet atheists for fear of being kicked out of their homes. This is a tall order, I'm not really sure how this could be legislated and enforced, but it's on my wish list.
5: Religious, particularly Catholic, health organizations need to start working in the best interests of the patient population they serve, not simply adhere to their belief system. Performing abortions, tubal ligations, and vasectomies are necessary functions for many people. When a Catholic hospital is the only option in your area, you're screwed, whether you're Catholic or not.
6: That society at large shifts it's view of the meanings of atheist and atheism. As you so clearly show how these terms are confused with some form of religion.

There's more, and I'm sure some other atheists will take issue with some of these. But that's enough food for the troll for now.
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RE: The End Game of Atheism
(June 26, 2013 at 3:01 pm)ShadowWolf1986 Wrote:
(June 26, 2013 at 2:59 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Oh, poor, poor, you. You SO wish we really wanted to kill theists, that's how much you love that tingly victimhood feeling.

Why would I want you to kill Theists? We outnumber you by billions. You would be the victims in that war.

Of course you don't want us to kill theists. You just want us to WANT to kill them. That's all you need to get whatever feeling it is you're satisfying by making such an outrageous accusation. I admit you're making a game effort to provoke that feeling, but it's just not how we roll around here.
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RE: The End Game of Atheism
You know, a thread like this has all the elements of a Shakespearean farce. You have the meaningful and eloquent dialogue of our antagonist ShadyGuy and our protagonist MisterClean. But throughout you get the never ending banter of the a greek chorus on laughing gas. Honest to god, I've got to stop because my gut is hurting. Carry on you fine actors, carry on.
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