(September 6, 2013 at 8:03 am)Psykhronic Wrote: I love watching religious theists defend their scripture's sexism with that same sexist scripture as if it changes anything.

There's a defense???

I apologize, "defend" would have been more correct.

(September 5, 2013 at 7:47 pm)Ryantology Wrote: If a lighter sentence can be handed down for failing to cause significant damage, what's the deterrence value of the maximum punishment?

You misunderstand. The sentence is the same. It's more or less severe than the offense because the actual damage of the offense is variable.

Quote:Neither is the death penalty in practice. Punishments, regardless of severity, only have a limited deterrence value.

The death penalty has likely not been a deterrent in modern societies because it typically only applies to murder.

Quote:Dear jesus. It's pointing out the slippery slope fallacy inherent in promoting deterrence (if we aren't hard on criminals, more people will become criminals). If cutting off hands is acceptable because of the alleged deterrence value of savage punishment, why not apply the most savage punishment for any crime to maximize deterrent value?

First time I've seen someone deny the slippery slope fallacy by continuing to advocate it.

Quote:Gotta set aside a day for the Yahweh brainwashing.

First, there's no requirement for brainwashing on the Sabbath. Even if there were, why would that apply to slaves and servants, if this is really just a man-made law? It also applied to animals and foreigners, who were not part of any brainwashing.

Quote:I don't need to because that was never the point.

It was the point in your last post.

Quote:Non-gods are fallible and imperfect. Perfect gods must meet perfect standards. The slightest flaw of any kind ruins perfection. A god who compromises or regrets a decision he made is a God acknowledging his own mistakes. A god who makes mistakes is, by definition, not perfect.

I disagree that compromise necessarily implies a mistake.

(September 6, 2013 at 8:03 am)Psykhronic Wrote: I love watching religious theists defend their scripture's sexism with that same sexist scripture as if it changes anything.

Well, it's not as if they could defend it with reality.

(September 6, 2013 at 7:27 am)Brakeman Wrote:

(September 5, 2013 at 5:11 pm)Godschild Wrote: Men were punished for harm to a pregnant woman, and it was eye for an eye type of punishment. Exodus 21:22-25.

Unless of course his intention was to rape her and force her to submit to his whims for her entire life.

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 (NIV)

28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

You need to study ancient history very thoroughly before condemning what happened to people. You're trying to compare oranges to apples and it just doesn't work.

GC

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(September 5, 2013 at 4:57 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: Derp again, GC.

I love your childish mentality, it fits you perfectly.

GC

(September 6, 2013 at 8:25 am)Godschild Wrote: You need to study ancient history very thoroughly before condemning what happened to people. You're trying to compare oranges to apples and it just doesn't work.

You would think a perfect god would have a perfect track record on human rights laws he himself set down. Guess he's learning as he goes.

(September 6, 2013 at 8:25 am)Godschild Wrote: I love your childish mentality, it fits you perfectly.

GC

Then you must reeeaaaallly love your god.

(September 6, 2013 at 8:33 am)Captain Colostomy Wrote:

(September 6, 2013 at 8:25 am)Godschild Wrote: You need to study ancient history very thoroughly before condemning what happened to people. You're trying to compare oranges to apples and it just doesn't work.

You would think a perfect god would have a perfect track record on human rights laws he himself set down. Guess he's learning as he goes.

God does not want to make robots out of us, and I personally do not desire to be one, do you? History is running a course man is setting, God tries to protect us from ourselves, to bad we do not listen very well.

GC

(September 6, 2013 at 8:43 am)Godschild Wrote: God does not want to make robots out of us, and I personally do not desire to be one, do you? History is running a course man is setting, God tries to protect us from ourselves, to bad we do not listen very well.

GC

So when the bible endorses slavery, that's god "trying" to steer us right regarding human rights? Or was the bible written by people, meaning that humans falsely purported to have god's word, and god did nothing to correct that?

And before you go new testament on me, that endorses slavery too.

I can't hear you, GC, over the sound of your tap shoes.