Now that Obamacare is almost here some costs are coming out on the national news, some will pay about $800.00 a month some a little less depending on income and what state you live in, that's a lot more than i was told. Affordable health care my eye hock:

manowar

Sooner or later, you will accept the better European model.

(September 26, 2013 at 5:15 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: Sooner or later, you will accept the better European model.

I was just about to make the comment that it is not a full universal healthcare plan most likely because of the whiny Republicunts.

(September 26, 2013 at 5:20 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: I was just about to make the comment that it is not a full universal healthcare plan most likely because of the whiny Republicunts.

umm who the hell will pay $800 a month? where did you get that figure from?

I watched his speech and he was saying that it will cost you as little as a cell phone bill (under $100 he was saying) for most families

It is affordable for people who do not have healthcare through their employer or are self-employed or unemployed

It's not a bad deal at all unless he was lying about what he said

(September 26, 2013 at 5:25 pm)AtheistCreed Wrote: umm who the hell will pay $800 a month? where did you get that figure from?

I watched his speech and he was saying that it will cost you as little as a cell phone bill (under $100 he was saying) for most families

It is affordable for people who do not have healthcare through their employer or are self-employed or unemployed

It's not a bad deal at all unless he was lying about what he said

I find that figure ($100/month for most families) highly suspect.

My share of my plan premium is $401/month for myself and 2 dependents. my employer pays an additional amount. Thats with a 5000 individual / 10000 family deductible. It doesnt pay a dime until I have paid those dedictibles out of pocket.

The last year my employer offered a traditional copay plan, my premiums were almost $1500 per month.

(September 26, 2013 at 5:33 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(September 26, 2013 at 5:25 pm)AtheistCreed Wrote: umm who the hell will pay $800 a month? where did you get that figure from?

I watched his speech and he was saying that it will cost you as little as a cell phone bill (under $100 he was saying) for most families

It is affordable for people who do not have healthcare through their employer or are self-employed or unemployed

It's not a bad deal at all unless he was lying about what he said

I find that figure ($100/month for most families) highly suspect.

My share of my plan premium is $401/month for myself and 2 dependents. my employer pays an additional amount. Thats with a 5000 individual / 10000 family deductible. It doesnt pay a dime until I have paid those dedictibles out of pocket.

The last year my employer offered a traditional copay plan, my premiums were almost $1500 per month.

That is without Obamacare.

I don't know man, the idea is that the more people who have health insurance, the lower the cost, because the insurance companies will make more money even though individuals are paying less.

After January 1st the cost of healthcare is supposed to go down significantly according to Obama

Right now the law is not in effect, so of course you're paying ridiculous amounts of money. I could not afford to pay what you're paying or I would have to sleep in an alley.

Manowar... what state do you live in? What amount you pay has a lot to do with that. There were quite a number of states that refused to accept the Federal funds offered for Medicaid, which was intended to offset the costs of setting up the mandatory public health insurance exchanges. Residents of those states -- among them, Alabama, Texas, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina (seeing a trend here?) -- are in fact probably going to spend more for the ACA coverage than those who live in states that got onboard with the program. Here in Oregon, my costs are going down by more than two-thirds. But we set up our exchange on time and accepted the offsetting funds.

(September 26, 2013 at 5:40 pm)AtheistCreed Wrote:

(September 26, 2013 at 5:33 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: I find that figure ($100/month for most families) highly suspect.

My share of my plan premium is $401/month for myself and 2 dependents. my employer pays an additional amount. Thats with a 5000 individual / 10000 family deductible. It doesnt pay a dime until I have paid those dedictibles out of pocket.

The last year my employer offered a traditional copay plan, my premiums were almost $1500 per month.

That is without Obamacare.

I don't know man, the idea is that the more people who have health insurance, the lower the cost, because the insurance companies will make more money even though individuals are paying less.

After January 1st the cost of healthcare is supposed to go down significantly according to Obama

Right now the law is not in effect, so of course you're paying ridiculous amounts of money. I could not afford to pay what you're paying or I would have to sleep in an alley.

What sort of magic is going to reduce the national cost of healthcare by an order of magnitude? There aren't enough uninsured healthy people in the nation to have that kind of drastic effect.

Depends on where you live as to what the costs are.

Meanwhile, this chart shows what happened from 2002 to 2012. I suppose the republicunts will blame Obama for this, too.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/09/11/pf/insur...index.html