(October 8, 2013 at 9:46 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: What does the planned parenthood office do exactly which sets them off so much?
Is it not something that is funded by the government?

Many in the anti-abortion crowd believe they get taxpayer money for giving abortions, which is false. Planned Parenthood webpage

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(October 8, 2013 at 10:03 am)The Germans are coming Wrote: You dont know that th crime was comited by a Jesus freak until the person responsible has been found guilty.

No I don't for sure, but every time a women's reproductive health clinic is attacked with arson, bombs or other acts like this, it's always been because of fundamentalist Christian terrorism.

Quote:Finger pointing and baseless assumtions are the most destructive thing capable of obstructing a criminal investigation.

Good thing I'm not involved in the investigation then.

Quote:Many in the anti-abortion crowd believe they get taxpayer money for giving abortions, which is false. Planned Parenthood webpage

Well, I know that its a procedure that is done by paying for it. What I don't know is what the planned parenthood office has to do with it. Do they like provide people with a list of hospitals and doctors that provide abortions?
What exactly is the connection of these offices with abortion?

Other than that, I don't think it really matters to a man who so militantly opposes abortion whether its done with tax money or not, as it seems that they are prone to resort to arson to prevent any abortions from occuring.

(October 8, 2013 at 10:11 am)Doubting Thomas Wrote: No I don't for sure, but every time a women's reproductive health clinic is attacked with arson, bombs or other acts like this, it's always been because of fundamentalist Christian terrorism.

Right to the point at which it is not.

Quote:Good thing I'm not involved in the investigation then.

Nore were the people who craved for the Boston bomings to be an american right wing terror plot or those who considered every possible person with dark skin to be a suspect.

It doesnt matter if you are part of the investigation or not, as soon as you assosciate a crime with an entire segment of society and not just with the criminal or criminal group, you are (maybe even without knowing what you are doing) framing an entire segment of society as potential criminals.

(October 8, 2013 at 10:23 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Do they like provide people with a list of hospitals and doctors that provide abortions?
What exactly is the connection of these offices with abortion?

Most fundie Christians think that Planned Parenthood are nothing more than abortion clinics, when abortion is a very, very small part of what they actually do. But nobody will ever be able to tell them anything differently.

Just look at how many of them fell for this Onion article:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/planned...lex,20476/

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(October 8, 2013 at 10:33 am)The Germans are coming Wrote:

(October 8, 2013 at 10:11 am)Doubting Thomas Wrote: No I don't for sure, but every time a women's reproductive health clinic is attacked with arson, bombs or other acts like this, it's always been because of fundamentalist Christian terrorism.

Right to the point at which it is not.

I live in this part of the country, so I know how it is here. Even if this attempted arson wasn't committed by a fundie Christian, there will be fundie Christians secretly (and not so secretly) praising whoever did it.

I saw people cheering on facebook when Dr. George Tiller was murdered.

Quote:Most fundie Christians think that Planned Parenthood are nothing more than abortion clinics, when abortion is a very, very small part of what they actually do. But nobody will ever be able to tell them anything differently.

Just look at how many of them fell for this Onion article:

Well, that's what I'd think that planned parenthood offices ought to.
I personally wouldn't pay too much head to these fools. We've had fools like them here aswell, they weren't asshurt about abortion all the time, but had their own false idol, which eventually led to small scale rebellions and the occasional murder. All they managed to do was to blacken their already freaky image in the eyes of general public.

(October 8, 2013 at 10:03 am)The Germans are coming Wrote: You dont know that th crime was comited by a Jesus freak until the person responsible has been found guilty.


Finger pointing and baseless assumtions are the most destructive thing capable of obstructing a criminal investigation.

Actually, the cops usually have a roster of "the usual suspects."

(October 8, 2013 at 9:43 am)Airyaman Wrote: No, crime is crime. I just don't like the pre-emptive finger pointing because it happens way too often, and creates images that may not be accurate.

That's a fair thought. Although the major majority is by militant Christians, I suppose its only fair to take these scenarios on an individualistic basis... I'd still bet it was a Christian every time though

I'm not saying it definitely was a Christian doing this for Christian beliefs, I'm just saying that if I could put money on it, that's the way I'm betting. Always go for the sure thing.

(October 8, 2013 at 1:09 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: I'm not saying it definitely was a Christian doing this for Christian beliefs, I'm just saying that if I could put money on it, that's the way I'm betting. Always go for the sure thing.

And I was not trying to unpleasantly stick my finger into your eye.


I was just making a point about how dangerous it can be to associate certain criminal activity with one social group.

When one group characterizes itself by ardently promoting dehumanization of their opponents and has murders committed for those beliefs, it is wrong to associate criminal activity?

The extreme religious pro-life contingent for years called Dr. Tiller by the phrase "Dr. Tiller the baby killer" and distributed out his name, phone number, work place address and resident.

It was not a surprise that Scott Roeder, one of the extreme right wing pro-lifers, murdered him.

You feel safe to characterize Nazi groups as against democracy?

I feel safe to characterize the extreme right wing pro-life contingent the same way.