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RE: New Levels of Low
November 9, 2013 at 1:22 am
Isn't it amazing how the theists evade the subject so much that they pulled the argument from indoctrination to pedophillia to atheist morals?
¨I contend that we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you. When you understand why you dismiss all other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.¨
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 9, 2013 at 4:17 am
(November 8, 2013 at 9:22 pm)Zazzy Wrote: (November 8, 2013 at 8:59 pm)Aral Gamelon Wrote: Oh let him have his flapdoodle. He's spewing random shit and he knows it.
Although I appreciate the concern ![Smile Smile](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/smile.gif) OK... I just don't think this level of personal interest is appropriate. I'm watching your behavior with Aral, GC.
Watch on deary, there is nothing serious going on here. Hey I've been told I would get my butt whipped if they could find me, I did not take that serious even though it was a direct statement directed towards me, but I would guess that doesn't concern you.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 9, 2013 at 4:46 am
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(November 8, 2013 at 7:03 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: With that said, I unequivocally stated that science was neutral. I believe if you had read my post more carefully you would have seen that I never said anything about science being inherently racist. With respect to the larger point, evolutionary concepts like “survival of the fittest” have been used to justify racism in the form of Social Darwinism.
And were quickly discarded as nonsense. This is a viewpoint utterly irrelevant to science in 2013.
Scientists have not been saints, historically. The difference between science and religion is that science admits, discards, and learns from its mistakes.
Quote:I sincerely believe that the secular society was not the origin of today’s moral sensibilities. If it was, secular humanism would have independently developed its own moral system. It did not. It rejected God then piggy-backed on the already existing moral system, like how Thomas Jefferson edited out all the NT miracles to leave only the moral teachings of Jesus. Humanism is not responsible for discouraging eugenics, but rather the remnants of unacknowledged religious conscience.
What unadulterated religious narcissism. A complete whitewashing of history. Next thing you know, secular humanism will have been responsible for African slavery, the Crusades, and the continuing persecution of gays and the poor in America.
Quote:Whereas we can see secular humanists even today trying to rationalize their acceptance of traditional morals without giving credit their Judeo-Christian source.
The religion whose primary contribution to human history is a series of murderous rampages across the globe wants to be credited for inventing good behavior now that the world is too secular for them to continue it.
Screw that. We know which morals actually have a Judeo-Christian source, and they are not morals any of us want any part of.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 9, 2013 at 6:24 am
(November 8, 2013 at 8:10 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: (November 8, 2013 at 8:06 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: Atheists hiding in the clergy isn't a conspiracy theory.
It is well documented. They fear the judgement of good Christians.
Think of it as being similar to joining a cult that you waken on day to realize is a cult. You'd have some difficulty getting your butt outta there without a ruckus.
The truth will set them free.
If they are atheists they need to freely confess.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 9, 2013 at 6:38 am
(November 9, 2013 at 6:24 am)Lion IRC Wrote: (November 8, 2013 at 8:10 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: They fear the judgement of good Christians.
Think of it as being similar to joining a cult that you waken on day to realize is a cult. You'd have some difficulty getting your butt outta there without a ruckus.
The truth will set them free.
If they are atheists they need to freely confess.
Okay. I freely confess I am an atheist. Happy now?
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 9, 2013 at 6:43 am
Quote:Hey I've been told I would get my butt whipped if they could find me, I did not take that serious even though it was a direct statement directed towards me, but I would guess that doesn't concern you.
When where? I don't believe you in the slightest.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 9, 2013 at 7:40 am
(November 9, 2013 at 6:43 am)missluckie26 Wrote: Quote:Hey I've been told I would get my butt whipped if they could find me, I did not take that serious even though it was a direct statement directed towards me, but I would guess that doesn't concern you.
When where? I don't believe you in the slightest.
GC's got this weird behavioral tic where he believes that everything that happens to him should be applied to everyone in that set ("someone else threatened me and therefore you, unconnected atheist, are a hypocrite") . A simplistic view, for a simple person.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 9, 2013 at 7:51 am
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(November 5, 2013 at 11:00 pm)ChildOfReason Wrote: Over all the years I have been in my extremely southern right wing town schools, I have always heard ¨hints¨ to the existence of God.
However, a school teacher has gone to a new low.
Today while my class was discussing ¨To Kill a Mockingbird¨, my teacher intervened.
She asked us ¨Do you believe that all men are created equal?¨ and told us to state whether we agreed or disagreed. After all of us told her our opinion, she stated this: ¨God created all of you equal, no matter what some evil evolutionist says¨.
Sigh.
A new level of low, even for the south.
Ask her if she would accept DNA evidence in a murder trial. If the answer is yes then she is fucked because DNA confirms evolution.
(November 9, 2013 at 6:24 am)Lion IRC Wrote: (November 8, 2013 at 8:10 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: They fear the judgement of good Christians.
Think of it as being similar to joining a cult that you waken on day to realize is a cult. You'd have some difficulty getting your butt outta there without a ruckus.
The truth will set them free.
If they are atheists they need to freely confess.
I am an atheist, I reject your claim of your Poofdaddy as well as all others concocted by human imagination in our species history.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 9, 2013 at 10:16 am
Brian37 and whateverist - the thread strand is about atheists pretending to be Christian clergy.
NOT atheists who proudly proselytise their worldview.
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RE: New Levels of Low
November 9, 2013 at 10:52 am
I don't see them trying to convert or induce you into becoming an atheist Lion. Nice diversion though.
Proselytize:
1 : to induce someone to convert to one's faith 2 : to someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
transitive verb
: to recruit or convert especially to a new faith, institution, or cause
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