(December 5, 2013 at 8:09 pm)TaraJo Wrote: Really? Drugs are just as bad as guns? When was the last time someone went into a school building, loaded up with cocain or marijuana, and killed a couple dozen people?

Happens all the time. Drugs get sold to kids who overdose. Dead children.

(December 5, 2013 at 8:06 pm)Kitanetos Wrote:

(December 5, 2013 at 8:04 pm)BreadGod Wrote: Do you really think that when the government removes guns from everyone, they'll get rid of their own guns? How naive are you?

I do not expect the government to get rid of their guns. I may not trust the government concerning many things, but I see no reason why the government cannot have guns. Only nutters think the government will go on a killing spree, killing civilians left and right.

You really don't think that the government will abuse its monopoly on guns? The people who once lived in Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, and Communist China would like to have a word with you.

(December 5, 2013 at 7:47 pm)Kitanetos Wrote:

(December 5, 2013 at 7:43 pm)BreadGod Wrote: When will you figure out that banning something does not make it go away?

Something has to make it go away. Guns are a problem, plain and simple. Denying that is erring on the side of ignorance.

Stating that people need guns to defend themselves from criminals who have guns merely perpetuates the problem, because it ensures guns remain within society.

To completely remove guns from everyone, properly doing it so that no guns go underground to be illegally sold, is the only logical course at this point.

It is not logical because it is not achievable. Unless you want a repressive police state to make it happen.

(December 5, 2013 at 8:13 pm)BreadGod Wrote: You really don't think that the government will abuse its monopoly on guns?

No. Consider me, naive, if you will.

What do you honestly think your puny little weapons will do against tanks, missiles, drones, etc? You could not survive a governmental attack, unless another country intervened.

Besides, this is not Nazi, Hitler, Germany.

Now stop being so stupid.

(December 5, 2013 at 8:16 pm)Chas Wrote:

(December 5, 2013 at 7:47 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: To completely remove guns from everyone, properly doing it so that no guns go underground to be illegally sold, is the only logical course at this point.

It is not logical because it is not achievable. Unless you want a repressive police state to make it happen.

He may agree to it. He seems pretty malleable.

(December 5, 2013 at 8:18 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: Now stop being so stupid.

I know this was not directed at me, but I see no reason to resort to personal attacks simply because we disagree - that's how wars get started

(December 5, 2013 at 8:10 pm)BreadGod Wrote:

(December 5, 2013 at 8:06 pm)Captain Colostomy Wrote: Considering most mass shootings were done with legally obtained guns, I'd say banning guns from the law abiding would do more than the NRA would care to admit.

Answer me this: where did all of those mass shootings occur?

On land. You're not very bright, are you, lil' fella?

(December 5, 2013 at 8:18 pm)Kitanetos Wrote:

(December 5, 2013 at 8:13 pm)BreadGod Wrote: You really don't think that the government will abuse its monopoly on guns?

No. Consider me, naive, if you will.

What do you honestly think your puny little weapons will do against tanks, missiles, drones, etc? You could not survive a governmental attack, unless another country intervened.

Besides, this is not Nazi, Hitler, Germany.

Now stop being so stupid.

You're the one being stupid. Do you really think those soldiers are going to willingly bomb their home towns or shoot their old childhood friends? Soldiers are not robots. They're ordinary human beings, and they're not going to kill their friends and family.

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(December 5, 2013 at 8:19 pm)Captain Colostomy Wrote:

(December 5, 2013 at 8:10 pm)BreadGod Wrote: Answer me this: where did all of those mass shootings occur?

On land. You're not very bright, are you, lil' fella?

Let me ask you again: where did all of those mass shootings occur? I would like a non-sarcastic answer this time.

Quote:And your point is?

Just dealing with the detritus of one of our national obsessions.

Annoys the piss out of the gun nuts.

(December 5, 2013 at 8:23 pm)BreadGod Wrote: I would like a non-sarcastic answer this time.

I was speaking about 'Murica, so...in the US.