(December 26, 2013 at 5:57 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

(December 26, 2013 at 5:12 pm)Snidely Whiplash Wrote: I stated my opinion and you stated yours. As for your opinion (i.e. none of your post is factual) I'll respond with your own words "Thinking and proving are seperate things." I figure we are all square.

I hope I will change your opinion over time with my continued presence and postings here.

Well, I didn't voice out much of an opinion. I know that the Jews are Jews wherever you meet them, and whether they are Mizrahim, Mountain Jews, Ashkenaz or Ladino... They all have beards and zulifs, funny hats.
And they have come to Israel despite their differences in language and cuisine, and now speak their ancestral language, which was a liturgical language for many years. Which proves to me that they are both a race, and a nation.

Whereas I don't believe in "races." Although with my grandparents family names being McKenzie, McDonald, Lindsay, and Henderson I suppose I must be from the Scottish race. Yet I have brown hair, eyes, and olive skin like a Jew.

My old man had a very wise saying "It is an enlightened man who knows his father." (think about it. )

(December 26, 2013 at 6:31 pm)Snidely Whiplash Wrote:

(December 26, 2013 at 5:57 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Well, I didn't voice out much of an opinion. I know that the Jews are Jews wherever you meet them, and whether they are Mizrahim, Mountain Jews, Ashkenaz or Ladino... They all have beards and zulifs, funny hats.
And they have come to Israel despite their differences in language and cuisine, and now speak their ancestral language, which was a liturgical language for many years. Which proves to me that they are both a race, and a nation.

Whereas I don't believe in "races." Although with my grandparents family names being McKenzie, McDonald, Lindsay, and Henderson I suppose I must be from the Scottish race. Yet I have brown hair, eyes, and olive skin like a Jew.

My old man had a very wise saying "It is an enlightened man who knows his father." (think about it. )

Ah, you're one of the "race is a social construct" guys. If you see so much of the Jew in yourself(or the arab, since you maintain the idea that Jews have "bleached" themselves, they won't accept an olive skinned, brown haired guy like yourself, you might try to become an arab and see how that works out), you might aswell become one. Go ahead and try, my friend.

(December 26, 2013 at 6:52 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

(December 26, 2013 at 6:31 pm)Snidely Whiplash Wrote: Whereas I don't believe in "races." Although with my grandparents family names being McKenzie, McDonald, Lindsay, and Henderson I suppose I must be from the Scottish race. Yet I have brown hair, eyes, and olive skin like a Jew.

My old man had a very wise saying "It is an enlightened man who knows his father." (think about it. )

Ah, you're one of the "race is a social construct" guys. If you see so much of the Jew in yourself(or the arab, since you maintain the idea that Jews have "bleached" themselves, they won't accept an olive skinned, brown haired guy like yourself, you might try to become an arab and see how that works out), you might aswell become one. Go ahead and try, my friend.

But...but....the ancient Jews had brown hair and eyes and olive skin, didn't they?? I hope you aren't saying that since their sojourn in the lands of the Goyim, and the subsequent lightening of their skin, that today's Jews have become racist! That would be insulting God, who fell in love with the ancient Jews dark visages framed in curly brown/black hair. I'm sure God couldn't get it up looking at a pale Caucasian body with blonde hair and blue eyes!

(December 26, 2013 at 7:08 pm)Snidely Whiplash Wrote:

(December 26, 2013 at 6:52 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Ah, you're one of the "race is a social construct" guys. If you see so much of the Jew in yourself(or the arab, since you maintain the idea that Jews have "bleached" themselves, they won't accept an olive skinned, brown haired guy like yourself, you might try to become an arab and see how that works out), you might aswell become one. Go ahead and try, my friend.

But...but....the ancient Jews had brown hair and eyes and olive skin, didn't they?? I hope you aren't saying that since their sojourn in the lands of the Goyim, and the subsequent lightening of their skin, that today's Jews have become racist! That would be insulting God, who fell in love with the ancient Jews dark visages framed in curly brown/black hair. I'm sure God couldn't get it up looking at a pale Caucasian body with blonde hair and blue eyes!

Well like it was only them who had brown hair and olive skin, numbnuts.
Besides, they were living in a rather sunny environment too. I have rather pale skin due to my ancestors being from Crimea, and I'm not as "tanned" as a Turk from Sivas, as a natural byproduct of not living in a sunny area. But the Turk from Sivas and the Turk from Crimea are still of the same race. Is that really much of a coincidence?
How superficial are your notions of race?

Besides, I think that a lot of Ashkenazi Jews still feature that "curly black hair", that you have mentioned. Even those without the curly black hair have facial features that betray their origins.
And so do you, Celt.

Israeli death squads.

Quote:How superficial are your notions of race?

I already told you already, Puss Nuts. I don't believe in race. Neither do educated folk such as geneticists. Those who do believe in race do so for their own special reasons, like the Nazis, the Japanese, and the Jews. People who are 100% believers of an Abrahamic religion or race predominantly believe they are superior to non-believers.

(December 26, 2013 at 8:30 pm)Polaris Wrote: Israeli death squads.

Christian Nazis.

(December 26, 2013 at 9:34 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote:

(December 26, 2013 at 8:30 pm)Polaris Wrote: Israeli death squads.

Christian Nazis.

Who just so happened to be white.

(December 26, 2013 at 9:37 pm)Polaris Wrote:

(December 26, 2013 at 9:34 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote: Christian Nazis.

Who just so happened to be white.

I fail to see your point.

(December 26, 2013 at 9:39 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote:

(December 26, 2013 at 9:37 pm)Polaris Wrote: Who just so happened to be white.

I fail to see your point.

That's because your identity prevents you from being objective.