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Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
(January 15, 2014 at 6:48 am)là bạn điên Wrote: I don't eat anything with a face.

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Teenaged X-Files obsession + Bermuda Triangle episode + Self-led school research project = Atheist.
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RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
Quote: yes I also want to throw out slavery and....religion- they are also based on thousands of years of culture and history

Naturally you do. All those religious people arbitrarily trying to graft their ideas onto everyone else! Bastards! Would you prefer to throw out religion before or after you close down farms, grafting your ideas onto everyone elseAngel.

If a Christian doesn't like gay marriage, he/she should not have one.

If a Christian is against abortion, he/ she should not have one.

If a vegetarian doesn't like eating meat, they should not eat meat.

But nobody in that set should presume to tell other people how to live.
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
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RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
(January 15, 2014 at 11:57 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: y

Naturally you do. All those religious people arbitrarily trying to graft their ideas onto everyone else!

[/quote] You speak as if these people don't exist Both cristianity and Islam have Killed people on the basis that they refused to beleive in their silly god

Quote: Bastards! Would you prefer to throw out religion before or after you close down farms, grafting your ideas onto everyone elseAngel.

I don;t intend to close down farms -just stop them from abusing animals

Quote:If a Christian doesn't like gay marriage, he/she should not have one.

It doesn't affect them so It needn;t bother them

Quote:If a Christian is against abortion, he/ she should not have one.


There I disagree. If you are against abortion it is out of concern for the Fetus NOT because you think it is unpleasant

Quote:If a vegetarian doesn't like eating meat, they should not eat meat.

if an animal doesn;t want to be killed then it shouldn't be killed
Quote:But nobody in that set should presume to tell other people how to live.
So If you want to have sex with 11 year olds then thats fine is it?

(January 15, 2014 at 11:37 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: Yea, your comparisons would work if being opposed to slavery and being an atheist didn't make sense and wasn't logical.

They are both both


Quote: Being opposed to any form of animal agriculture is an extreme position and will remain that way because it is not logical or practical to conduct.

Its perfectly practical to conduct


Quote: We get a hell of a lot of our clothing from animals and we get a lot of our food from animals.

And I seem to exist without animal products from either.

Quote: How would we keep up with clothing and material demands if we didn't use animals?


Use cotton,nylon,spun fleece and the myriad other plant based or petroleum based products


Quote:How would the world feed itself if we didn't eat animals? Short answer: a lot of people would starve to death because there simply isn't enough vegetables and plants to eat and share with every other herbivore (whose populations would spike rapidly seeing as we aren't eating any) which would only make the problem worse.

Well if we weren't breeding any animals then they wouldn't multiply. the fact is there would be vastly more to eat since we wouldn't be having to grow food to feed to animal;s which we then eat.
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RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
This is an interesting juxtaposition. Thinking

Quote: You speak as if these people don't exist Both cristianity and Islam have Killed people on the basis that they refused to beleive in their silly god

Not at all! I know they do, and a far more toxic and insidious level. Christians in particular are buggers for assuming our subjective morality is somehow objective, self evident and generally applicable. Then we try to pass laws so that everyone has to live by our standards. And that is wrong.

I respect your view on animals, really I do. It's a nice sentiment. But it remains your view. Personally I don't give a scuttering Fuck about animal welfare (certainly not when there are millions of humans forced to live in vile conditions). And since there are obviously plenty of people willing to buy cheap, intensively farmed meat, I don't see how your ideas about the chickens welfare are more valid than the farmer's. And do think that for families living in poverty, the choice between cheap, intensively farmed meat, and no meat, is not yours to make.

Oh and yeah. Eating meat is totally the same as fucking an 11 year old. Dodgy Can't believe you went there.
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
Sith code
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RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
Are you being serious? 'if we weren't breeding any animals then they wouldn't multiply'
I think someone needs a lesson about the birds and the bees. The animals would breed without our help, don't you worry about that. Unless we kill them all, if that is what you are suggesting?

So you are saying we would have more food because we aren't growing any for the ex-farm animals? So what are the ex-farm animals going to eat? What is your plan at all? Set them loose? Kill them all? Once again, i shall say it, you really haven't thought this through.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
All that's missing is the Godwin: Meat eaters are worse than Hitler -.-;
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RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
We better watch out, this guy is obviously a PEETA agent sent to search and destroy perpetrators of animal cruelty. We may wake up next week and open our post to find a letter bomb, watch out guys!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHRDh0TdTkE
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
(January 15, 2014 at 12:53 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: This is an interesting juxtaposition. Thinking



Not at all! I know they do, and a far more toxic and insidious level. Christians in particular are buggers for assuming our subjective morality is somehow objective, self evident and generally applicable. Then we try to pass laws so that everyone has to live by our standards. And that is wrong.

Why is it wrong?

Quote:I respect your view on animals, really I do. It's a nice sentiment. But it remains your view. Personally I don't give a scuttering Fuck about animal welfare (certainly not when there are millions of humans forced to live in vile conditions).

Then I despise your opinions.

Quote: And since there are obviously plenty of people willing to buy cheap, intensively farmed meat, I don't see how your ideas about the chickens welfare are more valid than the farmer's.

Non sequiter

Quote: And do think that for families living in poverty, the choice between cheap, intensively farmed meat, and no meat, is not yours to make.


So/ I think otherwise
Quote:Oh and yeah. Eating meat is totally the same as fucking an 11 year old. Dodgy Can't believe you went there.

Why not?
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RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
Would you mind awfully if you replied in more than just a few word answers. It would help us all understand what you are thinking and dispel any notion that you don't actually know what you are talking about....
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
Since you are clearly a troll ill leave you to it.
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