(January 17, 2014 at 9:34 pm)Gish Wrote: Isn't affirmative action a response to people being hired solely according to their merits?

In the sense that being born with light skin color was considered a merit, yes.

I had black and white friends in roughly equal proportions growing up. If you want to call it a benefit, I had the benefit of not growing up in a place that allowed for a great deal of racial isolation.

I have also lived in places where white racism is very much alive and well and I don't believe for a second that institutional racism is a thing of the past. It's just not being paraded out in the open like it once was.

I find minorities to be stronger. Quite soon, you will start to see Caucasians slowly disappear from the earth due to the weakness of their genes.

(January 18, 2014 at 1:55 am)Polaris Wrote: I find minorities to be stronger. Quite soon, you will start to see Caucasians slowly disappear from the earth due to the weakness of their genes.

Is this a joke? WTF?

(January 18, 2014 at 2:27 am)KUSA Wrote:

(January 18, 2014 at 1:55 am)Polaris Wrote: I find minorities to be stronger. Quite soon, you will start to see Caucasians slowly disappear from the earth due to the weakness of their genes.

Is this a joke? WTF?

Its just out and out racist nonsense.

(January 18, 2014 at 1:55 am)Polaris Wrote: I find minorities to be stronger. Quite soon, you will start to see Caucasians slowly disappear from the earth due to the weakness of their genes.

Oh. my. Goodness, you're special.


Quill, I see that you think people don't wish to deal with it. What do you consider, "Dealing with it", as opposed to "sweeping it under the rug"?

I ask because part of actively refusing to see race when looking at situations, is an integral part of not being racist. If there are indeed racial inequities being claimed, it merits a look but if it proves to be unfounded, why must we pay attention? Paying attention is what brings attention to the racial chasms in the first place.

When building a bridge from one side of a chasm to another, each side must start with their sides, and start building it towards the middle. Then everyone can walk back and forth from one side to the next.

Unfortunately, as history has taught us, the only thing that brings two races together amicably is interbreeding. So, while I disagree that racism should in any way be included in our lives, it is. It will be. It's slowly being torn down one baby at a time, and there's nothing that racists on either side can do about it. Therefore I support those who are willing to be colorblind, and I judge people on the merits of their actions, not the color of their skin in the meantime. I'll fight for those who face injustice, whatever race their faces reflect. Other than that, I'm not going to jump into every conversation out there about ethnicity. I'd rather there be none, quite frankly and it's not because I'm ignoring the problem: I'm trying to solve it.

ETA: I do so hope Polaris' genes end up dead ended with some white chick who can't produce him his offspring and to whom he cannot divorce because of his religious beliefs. That, that would be justice.

(January 18, 2014 at 3:22 am)Luckie Wrote: I'd rather there be none, quite frankly and it's not because I'm ignoring the problem: I'm trying to solve it.

Yeah I'll probably get bitchslapped myself for this but here ya go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3cGfrExozQ

(January 18, 2014 at 8:38 am)Napoléon Wrote:

(January 18, 2014 at 3:22 am)Luckie Wrote: I'd rather there be none, quite frankly and it's not because I'm ignoring the problem: I'm trying to solve it.

Yeah I'll probably get bitchslapped myself for this but here ya go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3cGfrExozQ

God I love this man!

I agree and disagree with Freeman, as much as I love his response to the question. I don't think racism ends when people no longer recognize that someone is a different color. I think it ends when people can recognize that someone else is a different color, and treat them no differently because of it.

It is entirely possible to create a society without racism. Things like affirmative action only extend the problem. What is needed is more color-blindness. The Huns, for example, had no concept of racism in their society. They were East Asian & yet were happy to accept caucasians into their society. Their leader, Attila, even married a German girl. That would basically be the equivalent of King Henry having married a black girl, & this was around a thousand years ago.

Jesus H. W. Christ, that lady speaks quickly.