(February 4, 2014 at 8:46 pm)Asimm Wrote: Do you know what evolution is? I'm sure you do, changing over generations, the passing on of stronger traits isn't evolution?

Creationists believe that form of evolution happens. You’re equivocating on the term though because what you really mean is that all life descends from one single common ancestor. Creationists reject that.

(February 4, 2014 at 8:47 pm)Cato Wrote: So when I hear Creationists go on about 'kind' they are talking about genus, not species? They're never very specific.

Ham clearly stated in his presentation that I assume you also have been listening to that the biblical kind usually lines up with the taxonomic family classification.

(February 4, 2014 at 8:47 pm)Asimm Wrote: He's an early earth creationist, right?

Indeed.

(February 4, 2014 at 8:47 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: If you can walk a mile can you walk a billion miles?

Your distinction between a mile and a billion miles is based on an unstated but true limit that I won't live long enough to walk a billion miles.

If you wish to draw a line in the continuum of biological change beyond which further difference is impossible please state that line and why it exists... other than 'because I said so.'

(February 4, 2014 at 8:54 pm)JuliaL Wrote:

(February 4, 2014 at 8:47 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: If you can walk a mile can you walk a billion miles?

Your distinction between a mile and a billion miles is based on an unstated but true limit that I won't live long enough to walk a billion miles.

If you wish to draw a line in the continuum of biological change beyond which further difference is impossible please state that line and why it exists... other than 'because I said so.'

"Because the bible says so."

(February 4, 2014 at 8:56 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: "Because the bible says so."

And the bible reflects reality as we experience it because??????
or did I miss the [sarcasm] tag

(February 4, 2014 at 8:48 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Yeah.

Let me guess, "Yahweh created the light en route to the earth to make it look like the universe is millions of years old at least."

No, not even close.

(February 4, 2014 at 8:50 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: What's the barrier?

The empirical evidence supports this concept. There are genetic limitations to how far animal populations can change.

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Yes, given enough time and resources.

Prove it. :p I can live for a year, can I therefore live for a million?

(February 4, 2014 at 8:52 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:

(February 4, 2014 at 8:46 pm)Asimm Wrote: Do you know what evolution is? I'm sure you do, changing over generations, the passing on of stronger traits isn't evolution?

Creationists believe that form of evolution happens. You’re equivocating on the term though because what you really mean is that all life descends from one single common ancestor. Creationists reject that.

So refute a scientific theory with actual proof, and instead praise a book with no proof.

makes sense to me...

(February 4, 2014 at 8:58 pm)JuliaL Wrote:

(February 4, 2014 at 8:56 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: "Because the bible says so."

And the bible reflects reality as we experience it because??????
or did I miss the [sarcasm] tag

Yeah, but it's easy to do.
I call it "getting Poe-ned"

(February 4, 2014 at 8:58 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: The empirical evidence supports this concept. There are genetic limitations to how far animal populations can change.

Please cite references to your 'empirical evidence.'
Or is this just another 'because I said so?'

(February 4, 2014 at 8:58 pm)JuliaL Wrote:

(February 4, 2014 at 8:56 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: "Because the bible says so."

And the bible reflects reality as we experience it because??????
or did I miss the [sarcasm] tag

I saved you time. If I were a creationist you wouldn't get to that admission, not even after 100s of pages.

Which I see you're going to experience anyway, since you've engaged one, XD.

(February 4, 2014 at 8:58 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: No, not even close.

Do tell, then.

Quote:The empirical evidence supports this concept. There are genetic limitations to how far animal populations can change.

And they are...? And the evidence for them is...?