The god delusion is a sad joke designed to relieve fools of their money. This is a scientist who knows nada about theology writing a book about theology. Try his science books instead. Now those are good, if nothing like such a money spinner.

(March 7, 2014 at 1:29 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: The god delusion is a sad joke designed to relieve fools of their money.

Is that not capitalism in general? If an atheist wants to make money in regard to atheism the way that theists do in relation to their mythological deities, my only concern is the obvious capitalist angle. The main difference is that at least someone can become smarter and have his eyes opened to the lies of religion when reading a book in relation to atheism whereas a theistic book simply keeps the theist ignorant.

(March 7, 2014 at 1:29 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: is a sad joke designed to relieve fools of their money.

Gee...sounds like the religion.

(March 7, 2014 at 12:04 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: Not everyone has copious amounts of time to spend on the forums.

A fair critique, but judging from his activity level in his other threads in the days after he has posted them, I'm wondering why he has abandoned this one so quickly.

Unless that activity includes today, something could have come up.

I have shit happen to me too.

(March 6, 2014 at 6:17 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: But I don't get it. I'm too dumb scientifically to try and comprehend what scientists truly believe to be the case against God.

You won't understand it all. You will understand some. Your faith in Him will be tested by those who will eagerly jump on those gaps. Stay strong.

Quote:"How did it all begin? How did nothing create everything?"

In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. You are overthinking it. Nothing wrong with that.

Evidence? Or did you just pull it out of your ass, as usual.

The big bang is just a theory, with only really 1 observable, background radiation and expansion.

We have not observed gravity waves, they are just a theory as is general relativity or any unified theory of physics.

We have not observed magnetic monopoles, or proton decay, they are just theories and if the standard model is correct, they don't exist.

String theory is just as likely to be wrong as Quantum Chromodynamics before it. Everything Hawking has worked on could be totally wrong.

But we have seen the evolution of 3 generations of stars create all the non-hydrogen in the universe quite clearly, over a 10 billion year visible history. Look up stellar metalicity and geochronology. That is all 50 year old solid science. And watch religiosity. And visit the grand canyon visitor's center and reread the story of Noah. Anyone can see the truth if they open their eyes.

Why do people get so fixated on the bleeding edge of science for people who can't do math? Just to undermine the credibility of Atheism as a philosophy, or to sound smart? Because from where I am sitting, it does not sound smart at all.

Yes, but a theory in the scientific community is considered fact. Gravity is just a theory, but you are still going to fall to your death if you jump off a skyscraper.

(March 7, 2014 at 1:34 pm)Kitanetos Wrote:

(March 7, 2014 at 1:29 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: The god delusion is a sad joke designed to relieve fools of their money.

Is that not capitalism in general? If an atheist wants to make money in regard to atheism the way that theists do in relation to their mythological deities, my only concern is the obvious capitalist angle. The main difference is that at least someone can become smarter and have his eyes opened to the lies of religion when reading a book in relation to atheism whereas a theistic book simply keeps the theist ignorant.

I agree. I also turn that around on you of course.

But let's not change the subject. Dawkins is a complete idiot and you'll learn nothing from him from his books on religion: only to be as idiotic as him about it.