(March 11, 2014 at 11:59 pm)Bad Writer Wrote:

(March 11, 2014 at 11:55 pm)psychoslice Wrote: 3 Filthy Truths About Vaccines and Cancer
http://vactruth.com/2011/12/30/3-filthy-...es-cancer/

There, now tear it apart, just as you would anything I put in front of you.

"vactruth dot com" Wow. Just wow. Vactruth. I mean...what the heck? How do you expect us to take something like this seriously? Ever hear of "Truthers"? They are 9/11 conspiracy theorists. This is exactly the kind of medium in which the Truthers post their literature. You are getting your information from an agenda-driven source. Do you have anything from a medical journal? A peer-reviewed study? Double-blind? Please, let us know.

Medical journals are not really a good source, because they are too bias, don't forget they want their doctors to administrate this crap.

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(March 12, 2014 at 12:04 am)Bad Writer Wrote: Correlation =/= causation. You having epileptic seizures following the vaccine is simply and only evidence of you having epileptic seizures, not that the vaccine caused the onset of the seizures. The taking of the vaccine merely coincides with the onset of seizures, but you have no proof that the vaccine was the cause.

Or do you?

And you don't have any evidence that it didn't causes it, why not look up the polio vac. and what it has caused, I was vac. back in 1959.

(March 12, 2014 at 12:05 am)psychoslice Wrote:

(March 11, 2014 at 11:59 pm)Bad Writer Wrote: "vactruth dot com" Wow. Just wow. Vactruth. I mean...what the heck? How do you expect us to take something like this seriously? Ever hear of "Truthers"? They are 9/11 conspiracy theorists. This is exactly the kind of medium in which the Truthers post their literature. You are getting your information from an agenda-driven source. Do you have anything from a medical journal? A peer-reviewed study? Double-blind? Please, let us know.

Medical journals are not really a good source, because they are too bias, don't forget they want their doctors to administrate this crap.

You're kidding me, right? I guess we can just throw out the last 100 years of surgical advancement then because everyone everywhere was just learning about crap from crap studies posted in medical journals.

Buddy, claims without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. We accept the information found in these studies because of the method used for testing the efficacy of treatments of illnesses. We do not accept your claims because you have not shown us this same degree of evidence that we have shown to you. Evidence proves a person guilty/not guilty in a court of law, correct? The same reasoning applies here.

(March 12, 2014 at 12:01 am)psychoslice Wrote: The polio vac. back in the late 50's has now been seen to cause cancer, as I said earlier I had epileptic fits for around 3 to 4 years after taking the vaccine, I also had cancer a few years ago, I live a healthy life, and as I also said earlier I have schizophrenia. Now don't preach to me about vaccines are not being harmful, it makes me sick.

Absolutely no vaccines cause cancer. You know what would be a reliable source of information on this? The CDC. It even has a page all about this. Notice that the only side effect of the polio vaccine is a sore spot where the patient was injected.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/side-effects.htm

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(March 12, 2014 at 12:05 am)psychoslice Wrote: Medical journals are not really a good source, because they are too bias, don't forget they want their doctors to administrate this crap.

Don't you realize that the medical industry would profit more from treating the disease than immunizing people against it? Like, DUH.

(March 12, 2014 at 12:05 am)psychoslice Wrote:

(March 12, 2014 at 12:04 am)Bad Writer Wrote: Correlation =/= causation. You having epileptic seizures following the vaccine is simply and only evidence of you having epileptic seizures, not that the vaccine caused the onset of the seizures. The taking of the vaccine merely coincides with the onset of seizures, but you have no proof that the vaccine was the cause.

Or do you?

And you don't have any evidence that it didn't causes it, why not look up the polio vac. and what it has caused, I was vac. back in 1959.

Excuse me? The Burden of Proof is on the person making the claim. You might want to read up on it before you try to shift that burden.

(March 12, 2014 at 12:10 am)futilethewinds Wrote:

(March 12, 2014 at 12:01 am)psychoslice Wrote: The polio vac. back in the late 50's has now been seen to cause cancer, as I said earlier I had epileptic fits for around 3 to 4 years after taking the vaccine, I also had cancer a few years ago, I live a healthy life, and as I also said earlier I have schizophrenia. Now don't preach to me about vaccines are not being harmful, it makes me sick.

Absolutely no vaccines cause cancer. You know what would be a reliable source of information on this? The CDC. It even has a page all about this. Notice that the only side effect of the polio vaccine is a sore spot where the patient was injected.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/side-effects.htm

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(March 12, 2014 at 12:05 am)psychoslice Wrote: Medical journals are not really a good source, because they are too bias, don't forget they want their doctors to administrate this crap.

Don't you realize that the medical industry would profit more from treating the disease than immunizing people against it? Like, DUH.

As I have already said, I was vac. back in 1959, and it wasn't an ejection, it was a syrup that you took orally.

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(March 12, 2014 at 12:12 am)Bad Writer Wrote:

(March 12, 2014 at 12:05 am)psychoslice Wrote: And you don't have any evidence that it didn't causes it, why not look up the polio vac. and what it has caused, I was vac. back in 1959.

Excuse me? The Burden of Proof is on the person making the claim. You might want to read up on it before you try to shift that burden.

The burden of proof is on you also, you are making the claim that it doesn't cause harm, of course it does, every medication has its adverse affects.

(March 12, 2014 at 12:14 am)psychoslice Wrote: As I have already said, I was vac. back in 1959, and it wasn't an ejection, it was a syrup that you took orally.

Those things don't matter. No vaccine has ever caused cancer, or autism either, for that matter.

(March 12, 2014 at 12:14 am)psychoslice Wrote:

(March 12, 2014 at 12:12 am)Bad Writer Wrote: Excuse me? The Burden of Proof is on the person making the claim. You might want to read up on it before you try to shift that burden.

The burden of proof is on you also, you are making the claim that it doesn't cause harm, of course it does, every medication has its adverse affects.

Buddy, we satisfied our burden. Don't even play this game. We've offered our evidence, and all you've given us is a link to a conspiracy theorist website.

Look, it's tough to admit that you might have been wrong about the cause of your illness. It took some balls for me to admit to one of my best friends that I was very wrong about Mormonism, but it allowed me to look for the truth outside of a book of scripture. If you agree to let go of your unverified claim that vaccines cause any kind of mental/neurological illness (seeing as you still don't have any definitive proof) then you can begin to search for the actual causes of the problem instead of blaming a scapegoat.

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I mention Mormonism and my friend because I tried very hard for years to convert him, and I apologized years later, which was a very heartfelt thing for the both of us.

(March 12, 2014 at 12:23 am)Bad Writer Wrote:

(March 12, 2014 at 12:14 am)psychoslice Wrote: The burden of proof is on you also, you are making the claim that it doesn't cause harm, of course it does, every medication has its adverse affects.

Buddy, we satisfied our burden. Don't even play this game. We've offered our evidence, and all you've given us is a link to a conspiracy theorist website.

Look, it's tough to admit that you might have been wrong about the cause of your illness. It took some balls for me to admit to one of my best friends that I was very wrong about Mormonism, but it allowed me to look for the truth outside of a book of scripture. If you agree to let go of your unverified claim that vaccines cause any kind of mental/neurological illness (seeing as you still don't have any definitive proof) then you can begin to search for the actual causes of the problem instead of blaming a scapegoat.

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I mention Mormonism and my friend because I tried very hard for years to convert him, and I apologized years later, which was a very heartfelt thing for the both of us.

I can't see comparing religion to a vac. making any sense, anyway I know what I what to know about vac. and that's fine if you want to believe what you want, be gullible and believe everything that medical science tells you, don't forget I said "everything".

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(March 12, 2014 at 12:10 am)futilethewinds Wrote:

(March 12, 2014 at 12:01 am)psychoslice Wrote: The polio vac. back in the late 50's has now been seen to cause cancer, as I said earlier I had epileptic fits for around 3 to 4 years after taking the vaccine, I also had cancer a few years ago, I live a healthy life, and as I also said earlier I have schizophrenia. Now don't preach to me about vaccines are not being harmful, it makes me sick.

Absolutely no vaccines cause cancer. You know what would be a reliable source of information on this? The CDC. It even has a page all about this. Notice that the only side effect of the polio vaccine is a sore spot where the patient was injected.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/side-effects.htm

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(March 12, 2014 at 12:05 am)psychoslice Wrote: Medical journals are not really a good source, because they are too bias, don't forget they want their doctors to administrate this crap.

Don't you realize that the medical industry would profit more from treating the disease than immunizing people against it? Like, DUH.

But they are making a lot of money already with the vac. and on top of that, the out come of what the vac. has done. DOH.

(March 12, 2014 at 12:33 am)psychoslice Wrote:

(March 12, 2014 at 12:23 am)Bad Writer Wrote: Buddy, we satisfied our burden. Don't even play this game. We've offered our evidence, and all you've given us is a link to a conspiracy theorist website.

Look, it's tough to admit that you might have been wrong about the cause of your illness. It took some balls for me to admit to one of my best friends that I was very wrong about Mormonism, but it allowed me to look for the truth outside of a book of scripture. If you agree to let go of your unverified claim that vaccines cause any kind of mental/neurological illness (seeing as you still don't have any definitive proof) then you can begin to search for the actual causes of the problem instead of blaming a scapegoat.

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I mention Mormonism and my friend because I tried very hard for years to convert him, and I apologized years later, which was a very heartfelt thing for the both of us.

I can't see comparing religion to a vac. making any sense, anyway I know what I what to know about vac. and that's fine if you want to believe what you want, be gullible and believe everything that medical science tells you, don't forget I said "everything".

The claims of anti-vaxers = the claims of religion.

Why?

Both are without demonstrable evidence.

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(March 12, 2014 at 12:33 am)psychoslice Wrote:

(March 12, 2014 at 12:10 am)futilethewinds Wrote: Don't you realize that the medical industry would profit more from treating the disease than immunizing people against it? Like, DUH.

But they are making a lot of money already with the vac. and on top of that, the out come of what the vac. has done. DOH.

You're worried about a manufacturing company making money off of something you need? Really? That's your argument?

(March 12, 2014 at 12:38 am)Bad Writer Wrote:

(March 12, 2014 at 12:33 am)psychoslice Wrote: I can't see comparing religion to a vac. making any sense, anyway I know what I what to know about vac. and that's fine if you want to believe what you want, be gullible and believe everything that medical science tells you, don't forget I said "everything".

The claims of anti-vaxers = the claims of religion.

Why?

Both are without demonstrable evidence.

But the WHO is liken to a religion, and all the believes out there worship it, Oh yes they do lol.