(March 12, 2014 at 7:24 am)Esquilax Wrote: [quote='enrico' pid='621715' dateline='1394613649']
Try again?
It would be a waste of time.
First you ask me the evidence that meat is addictive.
When i give you the evidence you still do not believe so what is the point in trying again?
Even if God would manifest in front your very eyes you would not believe.
You are just hopeless boy. hock:

Quote:You know what your problem is, enrico? You've mistaken "the things enrico accepts as true," as "evidence." You posted some reference, and someone else shows that that reference is not a sufficient standard, for various reasons. Your only response to this- and the fact that it's happened to you repeatedly should tell you something- is to just say "well, I showed you the evidence!"

......someone else shows that that reference is not a sufficient standard.....
You got to be joking pal.
That reference come from .......
George D. Pamplona-Roger, M.D., is a doctor of medicine and surgery at the University of Granada in Spain. He is a board-certified general and digestive surgeon, and a specialist in health education, UNED University, Spain. He is a member of the International Union of Food Science and Technology, Ontario, Canada, and a fellow in the Royal Microscopical Society, Oxford, England. After practicing his specialty for 15 years, Dr. Pamplona-Roger now focuses on medical research and health education. He has been published in many health journals, and has also written Encyclopedia of Foods and Their Healing Power; Encyclopedia of Medicinal Plants, and New Lifestyle.

Quote:Pay attention, fucker: [i]your reference was not up to scratch. Deal with it.

I knew that you are such an idiot but to believe an other idiot like Bad wolf instead of a uni degree with years of studies show how imbecile you are.

(March 12, 2014 at 8:52 am)enrico Wrote: ......someone else shows that that reference is not a sufficient standard.....
You got to be joking pal.
That reference come from .......
George D. Pamplona-Roger, M.D., is a doctor of medicine and surgery at the University of Granada in Spain. He is a board-certified general and digestive surgeon, and a specialist in health education, UNED University, Spain. He is a member of the International Union of Food Science and Technology, Ontario, Canada, and a fellow in the Royal Microscopical Society, Oxford, England. After practicing his specialty for 15 years, Dr. Pamplona-Roger now focuses on medical research and health education. He has been published in many health journals, and has also written Encyclopedia of Foods and Their Healing Power; Encyclopedia of Medicinal Plants, and New Lifestyle.

So fucking what? I know it's utterly pointless to talk to you since you never learn anything, but people with degrees? They can still be wrong. Having a degree does not absolve you from having bad ideas, and in this case you're bringing up a guy with a book on homeopathy, so we pretty much know he subscribes to medically spurious ideas.

Quote:I knew that you are such an idiot but to believe an other idiot like Bad wolf instead of a uni degree with years of studies show how imbecile you are.

I'm not going to stoop to the level of insults this time, but I'll say this: A, people with degrees aren't always right, and B, you don't know what sort of education either Bad Wolf or myself has. Your petty little insults are coming from a place of ignorance, just like everything else you post.

My dad has two degrees, doesn't mean he was right any more than usual. He certainly wasn't perfect. And here, you're relying on the fact that the guy has a degree, rather than the evidence he's using to come to his conclusion. It's bizarre; I've never seen someone pull up a potentially relevant reference and yet still turn in a fallacious argument from authority before.

You are like an artist when it comes to fallacies.

(March 12, 2014 at 8:52 am)Esquilax Wrote:

(March 12, 2014 at 8:39 am)enrico Wrote: What's the matter with you?
You always choose the wrong animal.
Domesticated dogs are very different from wild dogs.
Wild dogs do not get cardiovascular diseases while domesticated dogs do.

Oh, is that so? Couldn't be that you're just talking out of your ass, could it? Hmm...

Idiot.
You haven't even read properly the link that you gave.
At the end the writer say........To our
knowledge, this is the first case of cardiac
haemangiosarcoma in a wild canid species.
It is possible that this condition is rare in
wild canids due to their relatively short
life span, even in captivity, compared with
domesticated dogs.

The dog was held in captivity that is why he developed that disease.
Just try to get a free man inside a cage and see how his body-mind will react.
I knew that your mental capabilities were small so i wonder no more when you come up with this shit.

(March 12, 2014 at 9:11 am)enrico Wrote: Idiot.
You haven't even read properly the link that you gave.
At the end the writer say........To our
knowledge, this is the first case of cardiac
haemangiosarcoma in a wild canid species.
It is possible that this condition is rare in
wild canids due to their relatively short
life span, even in captivity, compared with
domesticated dogs.

The dog was held in captivity that is why he developed that disease.
Just try to get a free man inside a cage and see how his body-mind will react.
I knew that your mental capabilities were small so i wonder no more when you come up with this shit.

Your claim was "wild dogs don't get cardiovascular disease," enrico. My link shows that, in fact, they do, and that the reason why they don't at the same level as domesticated dogs has nothing to do with what you said.

You. Are. Wrong.

And the fact that you didn't just admit that your unthinking, blanket generalization was wrong speaks volumes about how pointless it is to talk with you, as you're a dishonest ideologue spouting poorly thought out gibberish.

(March 12, 2014 at 8:39 am)enrico Wrote: I already show you the reference and that is coming from uni scholars.
A step higher as far as knowledge there is God but is not much good for an atheist, isn't it?
http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2001/Anne...sino.shtml

That is the same reference you posted as before which shows that the human intestines are around 7 to 8 m in length, and therefore are around 4 to 5 times the length of the human body. According to table you posted before from the vegan sceptic site that would make us omnivores.

(March 12, 2014 at 9:14 am)Esquilax Wrote:

(March 12, 2014 at 9:11 am)enrico Wrote: Idiot.
You haven't even read properly the link that you gave.
At the end the writer say........To our
knowledge, this is the first case of cardiac
haemangiosarcoma in a wild canid species.
It is possible that this condition is rare in
wild canids due to their relatively short
life span, even in captivity, compared with
domesticated dogs.

The dog was held in captivity that is why he developed that disease.
Just try to get a free man inside a cage and see how his body-mind will react.
I knew that your mental capabilities were small so i wonder no more when you come up with this shit.

Your claim was "wild dogs don't get cardiovascular disease," enrico. My link shows that, in fact, they do, and that the reason why they don't at the same level as domesticated dogs has nothing to do with what you said.

You. Are. Wrong.

And the fact that you didn't just admit that your unthinking, blanket generalization was wrong speaks volumes about how pointless it is to talk with you, as you're a dishonest ideologue spouting poorly thought out gibberish.

How can you be so stupid!
Of course if you force an animal or a human being to UNNATURAL condition they will get sick no matter what.
When i say a wild dog i mean a dog living in the wild not in a cage.
Wake up pal!

(March 12, 2014 at 9:36 am)enrico Wrote: How can you be so stupid!
Of course if you force an animal or a human being to UNNATURAL condition they will get sick no matter what.
When i say a wild dog i mean a dog living in the wild not in a cage.
Wake up pal!

Ah, so despite the fact that you have no idea what kind of conditions the animal lived in, and despite the fact that the report doesn't say anything about that being a contributing factor, and despite the fact that they also say that the potential reason wild dogs don't get the same disease is because of a lower lifespan, you decided that all those things were wrong because... you want them to be, I guess?

Oh, and by the way, you'd still be wrong! You said- the only thing you said- was that it's not possible, for reasons that never appear in any scientific documentation.

Look at all this ad hoc reasoning you're spewing to preserve a statement that was proved demonstrably wrong right away!

How would we know whether a wild animal living in the wild died of a CV problem? Out of interest enrico, do you have a source for that?

I'm guessing Intuitional science again. It makes sense to me ergo it's true?

(March 12, 2014 at 9:44 am)Esquilax Wrote:

(March 12, 2014 at 9:36 am)enrico Wrote: How can you be so stupid!
Of course if you force an animal or a human being to UNNATURAL condition they will get sick no matter what.
When i say a wild dog i mean a dog living in the wild not in a cage.
Wake up pal!

Ah, so despite the fact that you have no idea what kind of conditions the animal lived in, and despite the fact that the report doesn't say anything about that being a contributing factor, and despite the fact that they also say that the potential reason wild dogs don't get the same disease is because of a lower lifespan, you decided that all those things were wrong because... you want them to be, I guess?
Oh, and by the way, you'd still be wrong! You said- the only thing you said- was that it's not possible, for reasons that never appear in any scientific documentation. Look at all this ad hoc reasoning you're spewing to preserve a statement that was proved demonstrably wrong right away!

Your stupidity is behind belief.
Your link say............A 9-year-old apparently healthy male African wild dog (Lycaon pictus) was found dead in its
enclosure at the De Wildt Cheetah and Wildlife Centre...........
What this means?
It means that when you take a wild dog inside a cage it is natural that the poor dog will get sick.
Is really important to know how the body-mind of the dog reacted and what is the disease that originate from that captivity?
All you do is try to divert the issue which is that if you leave the wild animals alone under normal condition they want get sick.

(March 12, 2014 at 10:12 am)enrico Wrote: Your stupidity is behind belief.

Doesn't that mean that it's impossible to believe that he is stupid?