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you send yourselves to hell
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 (March 11, 2014 at 1:56 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Discuss According to Jesus... no one is going to hell that doesn't want to be there! "....whatever you did for one, of the least of my brothers, you did for me." "Come, and inherit the kingdom built for you from the beginning of time." Amen!
Quis ut Deus?
One of the reasons I've rejected all religions is this notion that God, an omnipotent omniscient "Creator" would feel the need to put his "children" in an eternal time out because they disobeyed his commandments or rejected him. "Oh yeah? Well, I'll show you! I'll put you in hell!" lol
That wreaks more of human beings attaching human qualities to an invisible being. Even as a Christian, I never really believed in the notions of heaven and hell. They are inventions of man to scare people into submission. Not to mention, this version of a god sounds evil if he would operate in such a way. :/ 
Hell in the OT just seems to refer to the grave. In other words you die and it's an eternal sleep where you don't dream, because you have ceased to exist. The NT describes hell in all kinds of abstract ways, either the state of being locked out of god's house or being thrown into a lake of fire (that either consumes you and you cease to exist, or burns you forever and ever). The concept of a hell managed by Satan and his goons seems an outside addition, perhaps because people weren't terrified enough of god.
I like to think that the concept of hell was made more scary by the Devil himself. He figures that the stuck up prudes and whiny pussies will be frightened enough to make sure they end up in heaven, which means that the cool people will wind up in hell. Then he reveals that hell is indeed the party capital of the universe, where the boobs never sag and the drugs are always the highest grade and... the best part... CAN'T KILL YOU! And all the linens have an infinite thread count because when you're doing a line of coke off some hooker's tits, you want to do that shit in COMFORT, baby!
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
When asked about the afterlife, Jesus told His disciples: "Whoever comes to the light, will come to me."
But, there will be people that won't "go to the light". Why? Probably many reasons. The main being guilt, and not wanting to be judged! But, Jesus also said: "I won't judge you. You will judge yourselves." I love Jesus!
Quis ut Deus?
 (March 12, 2014 at 10:30 am)ronedee Wrote: When asked about the afterlife, Jesus told His disciples: "Whoever comes to the light, will come to me." Did jesus ever wear a onezee??
Quis ut Deus?
 (March 12, 2014 at 10:23 am)ronedee Wrote:(March 11, 2014 at 1:56 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Discuss Well if it involves burning forever, I certainly don't want to go there. No one would. Welcome to Universalism, Ronedee!  RE: you send yourselves to hell
March 12, 2014 at 10:50 am
(This post was last modified: March 12, 2014 at 10:50 am by Ben Davis.)
(March 12, 2014 at 10:30 am)ronedee Wrote: When asked about the afterlife, Jesus told His disciples: "Whoever comes to the light, will come to me."Because this woman: ![[Image: zelda.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=3.bp.blogspot.com%2F_djQSn0PiXpU%2FS2W4wr15E9I%2FAAAAAAAAFRk%2FngFqWGNOxLg%2Fs200%2Fzelda.jpg)
Sum ergo sum
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