(March 28, 2014 at 6:58 am)Rahul Wrote:

Quote:The second study looked at how long modern mammals nurse their young. Researchers in Sweden compared the diet, brain size, and weaning times of 67 species. Humans breastfeed for 2 years on average, while chimpanzees, our closest relatives, nurse for four to five years.

They found that all the animals stopped nursing when their brains hit a certain stage of development, regardless of diet. All the meat-eaters, including ferrets, killer whales, and humans, reached that point of brain development earlier than herbivores or omnivores, the researchers found.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/04...no-dilemma

You got a myriad of opinion about the issue whether the man is omnivore or not.
As i said several times the best way to find this out is to go in a cardiovascular section of your local hospital and then go in your local nursing home to see people with dementia, Alzhemer's and Parkinson and then go in the local jail and see how many veg. you can find among the people in these places.
You will find that most of them if not all are meat eater.
Now you got to stop for a second and think.......if the meat has got nothing to do with this what else cause these people to get physical and mentally sick?
And then you got to think.......why there are no veg. in these places?
Ok. you keep on thinking and then let me know eh!

(March 28, 2014 at 8:37 am)enrico Wrote: Eh, boy you really need to grow up.

And you need to put your money where your mouth is.

(March 28, 2014 at 8:37 am)enrico Wrote: Every time you ask me for evidence i do bring evidence
but you still do not believe.

Because it is not reliable, valid evidence. All you have ever done is state your opinion and link to homeopathic websites and books. This is not evidence.

(March 28, 2014 at 8:37 am)enrico Wrote: You remember few weeks ago when you said that the meat is not addictive?
After i show you the report from a qualified scientist that meat is addictive you still don't believe.

No. You didn't say meat was addictive, you said meat was addictive like drugs. This is wrong. Everything is addictive to an degree. People get addicted to picking their noses.
And the fact that you got the report from a qualified scientist is irrelevant. Firstly claims are evaluated on their own merrit irrelevant of who says them. Secondly, the link you provided was not a scientific peer-reviewed article in a joural but a book on homeopathy. That is why I, and everybody else does not accept that as evidence.

(March 28, 2014 at 8:37 am)enrico Wrote: If God would manifest in front your very eyes you still wouldn't believe.
You just too stupid.

Its true, I don't know what would convince me that a god exists. But if he does exist, he sure as hell knows what would convince me.

(March 28, 2014 at 8:37 am)enrico Wrote: You have to grow up before you attempt to engage in issue that you can not comprehend. hock:

This here. This needs to go in the hall of shame immediately. This is possibly the most hypocritical thing ever said on AF.org. You understand nothing of what you have been talking about. You don't understand the scientific method, you don't understand biology, you don't understand evidence, you don't understand evolution, you don't understand reliability, accuracy or validity. I could make a thousand page thread on everything you don't understand. I could publish a book full of the things you don't understand.

---

And i'm still waiting for you to link me to the pages that show you debunking all our arguments. If you don't do that, i'm going to assume you can't do it because you didn't debunk anything. I'm waiting....

---

(March 28, 2014 at 9:16 am)enrico Wrote: You got a myriad of opinion about the issue whether the man is omnivore or not.
As i said several times the best way to find this out is to go in a cardiovascular section of your local hospital and then go in your local nursing home to see people with dementia, Alzhemer's and Parkinson and then go in the local jail and see how many veg. you can find among the people in these places.
You will find that most of them if not all are meat eater.
Now you got to stop for a second and think.......if the meat has got nothing to do with this what else cause these people to get physical and mentally sick?
And then you got to think.......why there are no veg. in these places?
Ok. you keep on thinking and then let me know eh!

We have been over this a million times enrico. Vegetarians are quite uncommon, of course they are going to be underrepresented in every category.

Also, THEY ALL EAT BREAD . Must be the bread that's doing it.

Quote: you keep on thinking and then let me know eh!

Dammit Rico, now my mental image is shifting to a mountie ! Commit to a dialect will you?

This thread is a fucking gold mine for laughter.

(March 28, 2014 at 9:16 am)enrico Wrote: You got a myriad of opinion about the issue whether the man is omnivore or not.
As i said several times the best way to find this out is to go in a cardiovascular section of your local hospital and then go in your local nursing home to see people with dementia, Alzhemer's and Parkinson and then go in the local jail and see how many veg. you can find among the people in these places.
You will find that most of them if not all are meat eater.
Now you got to stop for a second and think.......if the meat has got nothing to do with this what else cause these people to get physical and mentally sick?
And then you got to think.......why there are no veg. in these places?
Ok. you keep on thinking and then let me know eh!

Well since only 3.2% of Americans are vegetarians I don't think I would meet too many. So fucking what? I bet I'll find even fewer aboriginal australians in those kind of places than vegetarians because they are even rarer in the States.

(March 28, 2014 at 6:30 am)enrico Wrote:

(March 27, 2014 at 7:24 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: You actually believe you have done that? You are even more delusional than normal.

Over a dozen of you guys try to say that the man is omnivore.
Every single time i did knock down your assertions.

Liar.

(March 18, 2014 at 8:25 am)enrico Wrote:

(March 16, 2014 at 2:45 pm)jg2014 Wrote: Enrico, what you are saying does not make sense. The reference you just posted showed that all of the studies after 1900 demonstrate that the intestines are around 5-6 times the length of the body, and that we are therefore omnivores. Did you not read you own reference, or did you just scan for the one line that might back up you argument and post that. If you have any other sources then show them or admit you were wrong.

... I may agree with you about the length of the digestive system of one or the other compared to body length but at the end it is well documented that meat eating creatures have a shorter digestive system than veg.

(March 28, 2014 at 9:19 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: No. You didn't say meat was addictive, you said meat was addictive like drugs. This is wrong. Everything is addictive to an degree.

I am addicted.
I breath air every day.
Gee that is quite bad.
I kill million of germs in the air, i really feel guilty.
I do apologize, you are quite correct.

Quote:And the fact that you got the report from a qualified scientist is irrelevant. Firstly claims are evaluated on their own merrit irrelevant of who says them. Secondly, the link you provided was not a scientific peer-reviewed article in a joural but a book on homeopathy. That is why I, and everybody else does not accept that as evidence.

I will have to apologize once again.
I should have listen instead to that guy that said that
he salivate at the sight of raw meat.

(March 28, 2014 at 8:37 am)enrico Wrote: If God would manifest in front your very eyes you still wouldn't believe.
You just too stupid.

Quote:Its true, I don't know what would convince me that a god exists. But if he does exist, he sure as hell knows what would convince me.

Sure it can happen.
It almost happen to me the other day.
I closed my eyes for a minute while lying down when
Scarlett Johansson appear in front of me and said......my dear come
with me.

(March 28, 2014 at 8:37 am)enrico Wrote: You have to grow up before you attempt to engage in issue that you can not comprehend. hock:

Quote:You understand nothing of what you have been talking about. You don't understand the scientific method, you don't understand biology, you don't understand evidence, you don't understand evolution, you don't understand reliability, accuracy or validity. I could make a thousand page thread on everything you don't understand. I could publish a book full of the things you don't understand.

What can i do?
I wish i could salivate at the sight of raw meat like you.
You are very lucky boy.

Quote:And i'm still waiting for you to link me to the pages that show you debunking all our arguments. If you don't do that, i'm going to assume you can't do it because you didn't debunk anything. I'm waiting...

.


All you have to do is go back from page one and follow from there.
Don't be lazy boy.
I can't breathe air for you.

Quote:Vegetarians are quite uncommon, of course they are going to be underrepresented in every category.

Let us say about 7%?
Well you haven't even got 1% of veg. physically and mentally sick in cardiovascular units of hospital and in dementia, Parkinson and Alzeheimer's units of nursing homes and in jails so there has got to be a reason, right?

(March 29, 2014 at 8:57 am)enrico Wrote: I am addicted.
I breath air every day.
Gee that is quite bad.
I kill million of germs in the air, i really feel guilty.
I do apologize, you are quite correct.

In 32 words you managed to say absolutely nothing.

(March 29, 2014 at 8:57 am)enrico Wrote: I will have to apologize once again.
I should have listen instead to that guy that said that
he salivate at the sight of raw meat.

Your response doesn't make sense.

(March 29, 2014 at 8:57 am)enrico Wrote: Sure it can happen.
It almost happen to me the other day.
I closed my eyes for a minute while lying down when
Scarlett Johansson appear in front of me and said......my dear come
with me.

This response also doesn't make sense.

(March 29, 2014 at 8:57 am)enrico Wrote: What can i do?

Educate yourself. Read a book. Learn. Take your damn fingers out of your ears.

(March 29, 2014 at 8:57 am)enrico Wrote: I wish i could salivate at the sight of raw meat like you.
You are very lucky boy.

I don't get this. You have been repeating this salivating theme. Is it meant as an insult? I don't know. Its not relevant to any of the points I made.

(March 29, 2014 at 8:57 am)enrico Wrote: All you have to do is go back from page one and follow from there.
Don't be lazy boy.
I can't breathe air for you.

Well, I've read the whole thread and didn't find a single post of yours that refuted any of our arguments. This leads me to conclude that you didn't. I do not accept your claim that you debunked our arguments. Therefore the burden of proof is on you to provide evidence that you did. Once again, I shall say, that if you don't do this, I'm going to assume its because you can't. And you can't, because you are wrong.

(March 29, 2014 at 8:57 am)enrico Wrote: Let us say about 7%?
Well you haven't even got 1% of veg. physically and mentally sick in cardiovascular units of hospital and in dementia, Parkinson and Alzeheimer's units of nursing homes and in jails so there has got to be a reason, right?

I can all but guarantee you are pulling that percentage out of your ass. You clearly didn't look up any kind of statistics at all. Come back when you have researched the topic. Come back with scientific peer-reviewed studies about the percentage of vegetarians in hospitals and nursing homes and jails. In short, what I'm asking for here (as I always need to do with you) is evidence.

Quote: Well you haven't even got 1% of veg. physically and mentally sick in cardiovascular units of hospital and in dementia, Parkinson and Alzeheimer's units of nursing homes and in jails so there has got to be a reason, right? 

Leaving alone the fact that this statistic is "Intuitional science" (vis shit you made up) there is another problem with this.

Let's say, for the sake of argument, that vegetarians lived (on average) to 80, whereas meat eaters lived to 30.

You would still see the same numbers of each group in hospital,the only difference would be that the veggies would be older.

Even if vegetarians WERE much healthier, they still get sick and die. All of them. Every single one.

(March 28, 2014 at 11:45 am)rasetsu Wrote: Liar.

Jg2014 point out that considering the length of human intestine it is not possible that it can be 10 times the body length.
It make sense that is why i acknowledge his view.
However opinion after opinion in different sites say that the human digestive system length is 10 times the body length so something doesn't make sense.
However all opinions agree that there is a huge difference between carnivore and human digestive system and agree that omnivore digestive system is very similar to carnivore and far from human so at the end even if we reduce the human digestive system length it is still very different from meat eater creatures.
In other words despite the differences in length i still show that the human digestive system it is not made to deal with meat.


Intestinal tract length. Carnivorous animals have intestinal tracts that are 3-6x their body length, while herbivores have intestinal tracts 10-12x their body length. Human beings have the same intestinal tract ratio as herbivores.

http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/09...bivores-2/

---

(March 29, 2014 at 9:52 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote:

Quote: Well you haven't even got 1% of veg. physically and mentally sick in cardiovascular units of hospital and in dementia, Parkinson and Alzeheimer's units of nursing homes and in jails so there has got to be a reason, right? 

Leaving alone the fact that this statistic is "Intuitional science" (vis shit you made up) there is another problem with this.

Sorry but 24 years spent in medical places tell that what i have seen it is not due to intuitional science but to experience which is much better than your guessing.

Quote:Let's say, for the sake of argument, that vegetarians lived (on average) to 80, whereas meat eaters lived to 30.You would still see the same numbers of each group in hospital,the only difference would be that the veggies would be older.

The statistics don't match.
I hardly remember a single vegetarian affected with the problems that i described.
I see few veg. but sick with different diseases usually accidents.

Quote:Even if vegetarians WERE much healthier, they still get sick and die. All of them. Every single one.

Your comment is very stupid.
1) There is way and way to die.
You can suffer the hell for years and years before you die.
At the same time you can die without suffering.
It remind me the American Indians that live normally until
few days before they die.
(this before the white man spoiled everything up)
When they feel that their time has come they used to go up a mountain
or somewhere peaceful. Sit in meditation and then die very peaceful.
2) Some people like me believe in reincarnation so what you have achieved in this life will be yours in the next life therefore it is important to
keep your body-mind-spirit clean.
It you don't believe in reincarnation do whatever you like but don't judge for everybody.