That timeline is a good extrapolation based on our current best theories, but it is a bit speculative towards the end... We need to learn more about the nature of dark energy to be sure that accelerated expansion will truly go on forever. If it is like einsteins cosmological constant it will, but maybe it isn't.We need to learn more about particle physics to know whether e.g. the higgs vacuum is long time stable or whether it will catastrophically decay into a different state. We don't *really* know for sure that protons decay.

This is me every time I see the title of this thread;

(April 1, 2014 at 12:19 am)snowtracks Wrote: wouldn't and doesn't make sense using the scientific method.

Or any method that is not insane or absurd. If someone can speak or write authoritatively on things not known, then they were able to verify these things in some manner. Otherwise they made it up. And if you cannot verify their claims nor verify the manner in which they determined their claims to be true, you have no way of knowing if they are made up or not.

"Wanting it to be true" is not a reliable method of verification for the validity of a claim.

(April 1, 2014 at 12:34 am)Esquilax Wrote:

(April 1, 2014 at 12:19 am)snowtracks Wrote: wouldn't and doesn't make sense using the scientific method. if one were to do a thought experience employing the 5 senses to determine God's existence, they would concluded it couldn't be done (for instance a visual manifestation); hence, God uses scripture to convey to a person's spirit and conscious that what they are hearing or reading is truth. so for finding eschatological answers, the research tactics are changed.

If you can't detect god through your senses, and the only thing you have to determine anything about him is a book someone claims is inspired by him, then you have no evidence, are unjustified in your claims, and are doing what we call "believing something outlandish written in a book." Despite how you privilege this, it's no different from believing Harry Potter is using text to convey shit to a person's spirit.

The fact that you believe what's in a book isn't compelling evidence of the existence of a thing. I know your gullibility is impressive to you, but not to the rest of us.

didn't post it was compelling evidence, but i'm sure everyone but you is entirely impress because when they did the thought experiment, it obvious that God wouldn't reveal himself directly thru the 5 senses.

(April 3, 2014 at 12:08 am)snowtracks Wrote: didn't post it was compelling evidence, but i'm sure everyone but you is entirely impress because when they did the thought experiment, it obvious that God wouldn't reveal himself directly thru the 5 senses.

Translation: I know it's not evidence, but nyah nyah, I'm right anyway.

And again, just demanding that something is "obvious" doesn't make it so, and in fact completely misses my point: you say god doesn't reveal himself through the senses. Fine. The senses are all we have to experience the world, and therefore you're saying god doesn't reveal himself, so you have an unjustified, irrational position.

(April 3, 2014 at 12:08 am)snowtracks Wrote: didn't post it was compelling evidence, but i'm sure everyone but you is entirely impress because when they did the thought experiment, it obvious that God wouldn't reveal himself directly thru the 5 senses.

But he used to didn't he?
According to your holy babble he was always intruding into peoples lives. FFS you couldn't go for a toke without the bastard sticking his nose in.

Now he's come over all shy.

I wonder why that is.

me, me, I know.... Pick me!!!

(April 3, 2014 at 5:05 am)pocaracas Wrote:



me, me, I know.... Pick me!!!

Ok, you at the back.

What's your answer?

(April 3, 2014 at 6:06 am)Zen Badger Wrote:

(April 3, 2014 at 5:00 am)Zen Badger Wrote:

(April 3, 2014 at 12:08 am)snowtracks Wrote: didn't post it was compelling evidence, but i'm sure everyone but you is entirely impress because when they did the thought experiment, it obvious that God wouldn't reveal himself directly thru the 5 senses.

But he used to didn't he?
According to your holy babble he was always intruding into peoples lives. FFS you couldn't go for a toke without the bastard sticking his nose in.

Now he's come over all shy.

I wonder why that is.

(April 3, 2014 at 5:05 am)pocaracas Wrote: me, me, I know.... Pick me!!!

Ok, you at the back.

What's your answer?

The contents of the book are just a story. They never happened for real.

(April 3, 2014 at 6:22 am)pocaracas Wrote:

(April 3, 2014 at 6:06 am)Zen Badger Wrote: Ok, you at the back.

What's your answer?

The contents of the book are just a story. They never happened for real.

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10 points for the correct answer, but minus 10 points for being a ginger.
Sorry kiddo