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The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(April 10, 2014 at 8:43 pm)Godlesspanther Wrote: Then there is the question -- why? Why should we be forgiven of our sins?
I think the more important question is why god seems to find it so difficult to forgive (requiring blood sacrifices and his own murder/suicide) when people do it all the time without so much as a paper cut.

(April 10, 2014 at 10:26 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: We are getting closer. You may see things in your lifetime. Time is running short. The end of the age is at hand.
Is this parody? You sound like William Miller. Guess what he was saying to people in the 1830s?

(April 10, 2014 at 10:40 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: So one knows the day or the hour, but He will return like a thief in the night. We can tell the season we are in.
If you do not know the day or hour, it seems exceedingly irresponsible of you to continually tell us that the end "is at hand."
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(April 11, 2014 at 9:00 am)Thackerie Wrote: “For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds. Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.“ (Matthew 16: 27, 28)

Let's see weasel-boy try to wiggle out of this one. Should be fun.

Easy - cue "Perhaps they never died" in 3... 2... 1...
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(April 11, 2014 at 10:27 am)Stimbo Wrote:
(April 11, 2014 at 9:00 am)Thackerie Wrote: “For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds. Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.“ (Matthew 16: 27, 28)

Let's see weasel-boy try to wiggle out of this one. Should be fun.

Easy - cue "Perhaps they never died" in 3... 2... 1...

would you allow me to cite a source with the answer?
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(April 11, 2014 at 10:42 am)Revelation777 Wrote:
(April 11, 2014 at 10:27 am)Stimbo Wrote: Easy - cue "Perhaps they never died" in 3... 2... 1...

would you allow me to cite a source with the answer?

Wow, do you seriously not get that we've been trying to prompt you into giving citations for your claims literally since the start of these threads? Thinking
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Rev offering a citation? Voluntarily?? Now I know the end of the world is near...
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(April 11, 2014 at 10:42 am)Revelation777 Wrote:
(April 11, 2014 at 10:27 am)Stimbo Wrote: Easy - cue "Perhaps they never died" in 3... 2... 1...

would you allow me to cite a source with the answer?

You can quote it, while leaving a link to where you found it. If it's in a book, leave the name of the book, as well as author(s), edition, publisher... some form of book ID.
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(April 11, 2014 at 9:18 am)Confused Ape Wrote:
(April 10, 2014 at 10:50 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: God, three persons, one God..

Triple Deity

Quote:A triple deity (sometimes referred to as threefold, tripled, triplicate, tripartite, triune or triadic, or as a trinity) is a deity associated with the number three. Such deities are common throughout world mythology; the number three has a long history of mythical associations. Carl Jung considered the arrangement of deities into triplets an archetype in the history of religion.[1]

The God you believe in wasn't the first 'triple deity' either.

Satan likes to replicate the Truth with impostors.
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(April 11, 2014 at 10:49 am)Revelation777 Wrote: Satan likes to replicate the Truth with impostors.
Maybe Jesus is one of the fakes?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(April 11, 2014 at 10:49 am)Revelation777 Wrote: Satan likes to replicate the Truth with impostors.

That's one possible explanation for Christian apologists.
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(April 10, 2014 at 10:36 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(April 10, 2014 at 8:10 pm)Faith No More Wrote: What the Christian is actually doing is trying to convince you that you have a disease so he/she can try to sell you the cure. You see, Christianity would cease to exist if it couldn't convince people that there is something from which they need saving.

Ah, yes.

Quote:What is the function that a clergyman performs in the world? Answer: he gets his living by assuring idiots that he can save them from an imaginary hell.
— H L Mencken

If God said it, I believe it. He let me know the condition of my soul. My actions verified it. The newspaper verifies the condition of the world in which we live.

(April 10, 2014 at 10:31 pm)Beccs Wrote:
(April 10, 2014 at 10:26 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: God has declared that every person has sinned. That is what we need salvation from.


We are getting closer. You may see things in your lifetime. Time is running short. The end of the age is at hand.

But the concept of "original sin" is a truly vile one.

If your great grandfather smurdered someone, should you be held accountable?

We all have sinned. Break one of the laws and you are a lawbreaker. We are all in the same boat, grandpa included.
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