(June 5, 2014 at 2:14 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: And that the trinity is a leftover of that pantheon, shoehorned into monotheism, when it really isn't.

There was no Trinity in the Old Testament, though. That thing came later as a result of trying to reconcile internal contradictions concerning the nature of God within the New Testament.

(June 5, 2014 at 2:17 pm)Irrational Wrote:

(June 5, 2014 at 2:14 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: And that the trinity is a leftover of that pantheon, shoehorned into monotheism, when it really isn't.

There was no Trinity in the Old Testament, though. That thing came later as a result of trying to reconcile internal contradictions concerning the nature of God within the New Testament.

Yes, but Elohim is the plural form of "El" as referred to in the OT, from when El had a wife named Asherah, and a son named ba'al. This is strikingly similar to the later God-Holy Spirit-Son trinity, as Elohim refers to all three at once.

I really want to read all of this thread. The soul stuff really interests me. But I have to go and look at pictures of women in nothing but pantyhose

(June 5, 2014 at 2:17 pm)Irrational Wrote:

(June 5, 2014 at 2:14 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: And that the trinity is a leftover of that pantheon, shoehorned into monotheism, when it really isn't.

There was no Trinity in the Old Testament, though. That thing came later as a result of trying to reconcile internal contradictions concerning the nature of God within the New Testament.

The trinity was active on earth throughout the old testament. The Son appeared a number of times as "the angel of the lord" and the Holy Spirit was active in the very first chapter of the bible during the creation of the world.

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(June 5, 2014 at 7:01 pm)vodkafan Wrote: I really want to read all of this thread. The soul stuff really interests me. But I have to go and look at pictures of women in nothing but pantyhose

Sounds like you're a very deep person. Just kick back and take another slug of vodka. Everything will be okay.

So how does the soul get it's energy?
Are all souls Identical?
Where is it located in the body? Kidneys? Brain? Liver?

Answer these questions LEK!

(June 5, 2014 at 7:01 pm)vodkafan Wrote: I really want to read all of this thread. The soul stuff really interests me. But I have to go and look at pictures of women in nothing but pantyhose

The hootchie cootchie girls have souls too. Their's might be rather tattered and worn, however.

(June 6, 2014 at 12:31 pm)Lek Wrote:

(June 5, 2014 at 2:17 pm)Irrational Wrote: There was no Trinity in the Old Testament, though. That thing came later as a result of trying to reconcile internal contradictions concerning the nature of God within the New Testament.

The trinity was active on earth throughout the old testament. The Son appeared a number of times as "the angel of the lord" and the Holy Spirit was active in the very first chapter of the bible during the creation of the world.

That's what you see when you add Christian presuppositions to what the Old Testament actually says. But the Old Testament, stripped off these presuppositions, does not say what you think it says.

(June 6, 2014 at 12:31 pm)Lek Wrote:

(June 5, 2014 at 2:17 pm)Irrational Wrote: There was no Trinity in the Old Testament, though. That thing came later as a result of trying to reconcile internal contradictions concerning the nature of God within the New Testament.

The trinity was active on earth throughout the old testament. The Son appeared a number of times as "the angel of the lord" and the Holy Spirit was active in the very first chapter of the bible during the creation of the world.

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(June 5, 2014 at 7:01 pm)vodkafan Wrote: I really want to read all of this thread. The soul stuff really interests me. But I have to go and look at pictures of women in nothing but pantyhose

Sounds like you're a very deep person. Just kick back and take another slug of vodka. Everything will be okay.

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(June 6, 2014 at 1:02 pm)Brakeman Wrote: So how does the soul get it's energy?
Are all souls Identical?
Where is it located in the body? Kidneys? Brain? Liver?

Answer these questions LEK!

I'm still waiting for the biblical passages supporting the assertion that chickens have souls.

(June 6, 2014 at 12:31 pm)Lek Wrote: The trinity was active on earth throughout the old testament. The Son appeared a number of times as "the angel of the lord" and the Holy Spirit was active in the very first chapter of the bible during the creation of the world.

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Then why doesn't it expressly say so? And also if the trinity is god's true form, why don't muslims and Jews believe in it, who follow basically the same holy book?

Saying there is a soul is worst than saying there is a God. When you say there is a God, you show that you understand nothing of the world around you. When you say there is a soul, you show that you understood nothing of yourself, and that is monumentally bad.