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RE: For football/soccer fans, predictions for the World Cup
July 18, 2014 at 5:00 pm
(July 18, 2014 at 4:43 pm)Napoléon Wrote: (July 18, 2014 at 4:19 pm)Tobie Wrote: Messi is the better player purely because he is a better team player - the most successful sides are the ones that work together the best, not revolve around some star player (look at Brazil, they fell apart without Neymar).
He might be more of a team player (although Ronaldo got more assists than Messi last season) but he's not a better player. He has nowhere near as much in his locker as what Ronaldo does. Ronaldo scores headers, free kicks, 40 yard screamers. Messi doesn't really do any of these. Besides, Ronaldo is a supreme athlete. He's built like a fucking action figure. He's stronger, faster, can jump higher. His all round game is much better than Messi's.
It's funny you say that the most successful sides are ones that work together and not built around one player. As if Barcelona have been dominant all these years because of anyone other that Messi? You take him out of that side and where do the goals come from? You take Ronaldo out of Real and they still have goals from Di Maria, Benzema and Bale. Barcelona is a team built around Messi. Even when Guardiola was there, he admitted his tactic was basically "get it to Messi". You see what happens when a manager like Tata Martinez tries to mess with that system. Barca basically failed last season because they tried to be more of a 'team'. Real Madrid is just a team full of superstars too, but I'd say they are just as much a 'team' than Barca are.
Another point, you put Ronaldo in any other team in the world and he'll still score 40 goals a season. You can't say the same for Messi. Again, Barca are completely built around him.
Fair enough, I submit to your greater knowledge. In my defense however, team football is much better to watch.
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RE: For football/soccer fans, predictions for the World Cup
July 18, 2014 at 6:41 pm
(This post was last modified: July 18, 2014 at 6:42 pm by Mystical.)
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RE: For football/soccer fans, predictions for the World Cup
July 18, 2014 at 6:44 pm
(July 18, 2014 at 6:41 pm)Luckie Wrote: Football is Nawt soccer. Soccer's for nancies.
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Keep telling yourself that.
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RE: For football/soccer fans, predictions for the World Cup
July 18, 2014 at 6:47 pm
(July 18, 2014 at 6:41 pm)Luckie Wrote: Football is Nawt soccer. Soccer's for nancies.
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But they wear body armour - none of that namby pamby nonsense in rugby.
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RE: For football/soccer fans, predictions for the World Cup
July 18, 2014 at 7:18 pm
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Well in soccer you can just get kicked in the shin. In football, your shin can kick your intestines.
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If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
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Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: For football/soccer fans, predictions for the World Cup
July 18, 2014 at 7:26 pm
(July 18, 2014 at 7:18 pm)Luckie Wrote: Well in soccer you can just get kicked in the shin. In football, your shin can kick your intestines.
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Playing poker doesn't get you kicked anywhere, does that mean american football is better than poker?
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RE: For football/soccer fans, predictions for the World Cup
July 18, 2014 at 7:30 pm
(July 18, 2014 at 6:41 pm)Luckie Wrote: Football is Nawt soccer. Soccer's for nancies.
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No Luckie no. Sweet sexy Luckie. Take it back. Please take it back. 
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RE: For football/soccer fans, predictions for the World Cup
July 18, 2014 at 8:21 pm
(July 18, 2014 at 7:18 pm)Luckie Wrote: Well in soccer you can just get kicked in the shin. In football, your shin can kick your intestines.
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"just get kicked in the shin"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veMA7hQzER0
Riight.
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RE: For football/soccer fans, predictions for the World Cup
July 18, 2014 at 8:30 pm
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RE: For football/soccer fans, predictions for the World Cup
July 18, 2014 at 8:41 pm
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There's plenty more horrific injuries in real football. In the American game you just see people being getting bumped while wearing massive pads. I guess that's much more macho. 
Btw c172, your link doesn't work.
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