(August 6, 2014 at 12:06 pm)Riketto Wrote: Let us get back on track Ape.
The point was.........IT IS POSSIBLE TO TRANSFER THE CONSCIOUSNESS FROM PERSON TO PERSON?

There is no proof for telepathy that I'm aware of.

(August 6, 2014 at 12:06 pm)Riketto Wrote: Considering that God is not a physical entity like your man the only way to understand whether He exist or not is to tune up with his consciousness.
Done this it is possible to say that He exist.

But it would still be a subjective experience. It requires faith and belief to regard the experience as tuning into God's consciousness rather than it being the the result of a brain function.

(August 6, 2014 at 12:06 pm)Riketto Wrote: Does this means that God does not exist just because it is not possible to transfer to you my consciousness feeling?

You obviously love something you've experienced. Even if I experienced the same I still wouldn't know if it was really God or the result of a brain function.

(August 6, 2014 at 12:06 pm)Riketto Wrote: Ape, you are running far too much with your inner feelings.

What inner feelings? I'm taking a logical, analytical approach to all this.

(August 6, 2014 at 12:06 pm)Riketto Wrote: Science is a process of learning or a way of pursuing knowledge.
It doesn't really matter whether this knowledge is related to this universe or to the knowledge within.
Iintuitional science is the process to grasp the knowledge within.

Intuitional insights might be science according to some obscure, ancient philosophy but this kind of thing isn't regarded as science now. These days intuitional insights etc. are classed as psychology.

(August 6, 2014 at 12:06 pm)Riketto Wrote: How do you know that Jung was able to achieve this or achieve this with psychology?
I am not saying that he didn't.
I am only saying that it doesn't make much sense to me but it is all possible.
My experience tell me that to achieve the peak of human emancipation it require a lot more than mental effort.

I'm beginning to suspect that you're being bloody minded because it's called Jungian Psychology. If using these techniques to go within and travel the inner worlds was called Jungian Spirituality you wouldn't be having any problems with it.

(August 6, 2014 at 2:05 pm)Losty Wrote: I cannot levitate. No amount of hard work will change that.

Hard work mixed with good planning always take you far in the good and in the bad.
Human emancipation can take you very far in the good.
As a drop of water ending in the ocean become the ocean also you sooner or later will merge in the cosmic consciousness to become one with it.
At that stage you can do whatever you like even levitate but why levitate when you are the master of the element.
You don't have to show anyone how good you are and beside at that stage you don't live anymore physically speaking which is a bonus considering that spirituality is at the very top while the fundamental element that compose the universe are at the bottom of consciousness.

(August 7, 2014 at 11:27 am)Confused Ape Wrote:

(August 6, 2014 at 12:06 pm)Riketto Wrote: Let us get back on track Ape.
The point was.........IT IS POSSIBLE TO TRANSFER THE CONSCIOUSNESS FROM PERSON TO PERSON?

There is no proof for telepathy that I'm aware of.

Telepathy is something very different Ape.
That is a mental process while love is over the border.

Quote:But it would still be a subjective experience. It requires faith and belief to regard the experience as tuning into God's consciousness rather than it being the the result of a brain function.

Brain function relate to physical life.
NDE experiences tell us that you can experience love even without a brain so brain or not brain you still can experience spiritual love.

Quote:You obviously love something you've experienced. Even if I experienced the same I still wouldn't know if it was really God or the result of a brain function.

Again, NDE experiences tell us that brain or not brain God is there.

(August 6, 2014 at 12:06 pm)Riketto Wrote: Ape, you are running far too much with your inner feelings.

Quote:What inner feelings? I'm taking a logical, analytical approach to all this.

Logic require the understanding that we are composed of 3 factors.
Physical-mental and spiritual go hand in hand but as far as you may not believe in one of the factor then your approach may not be logical.

Quote:Intuitional insights might be science according to some obscure, ancient philosophy but this kind of thing isn't regarded as science now. These days intuitional insights etc. are classed as psychology.

Intuitional science is the No 1 science for the simple reason that unlike physical science lead to real progress.
Physical science is very important for human survival but as far as real progress = NIL.
What these day is regarded as real science is totally irrelevant.
If today we wouldn't have wars, poverty, pollution and all the other rot then we could say that the judges are correct but as we know the judges are the same guys involved in the rot so their judgement is irrelevant.

Quote:I'm beginning to suspect that you're being bloody minded because it's called Jungian Psychology. If using these techniques to go within and travel the inner worlds was called Jungian Spirituality you wouldn't be having any problems with it.

Not really.
A lot of people especially religious people say that they believe or practice spirituality.
When i ask what spirituality is they mention the usual external belief.
They haven't got a clue that spirituality is a process within so when someone say that they practice spirituality i am very sceptic.

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(August 6, 2014 at 7:09 pm)Stimbo Wrote: .......the way you keep dodging the question and deflecting the subject like some retarded toddler with a shit-filled nappy, whinily flailing your arms around in a desperate bid for attention, could be taken as violating Rule 1..................

1) How can i deflect the question when in fact i already answer you time and time again?
Are you blind or what?
2) I am desperate?
I didn't know that stimbo.
3) Violating rule 1?

Quote:Why not do your granny proud and admit that you're wrong, that there is no science in "intuitional science"?

Actually granny was always saying that to know everything you must first know yourself and that involve intuitional science so although granny did not know what intuitional science was she knew that the real knowledge is within.
Sorry mate, wrong again.

Quote:Oh fuck off, you weird little cunt. Confused-fall off a fucking cliff and do us all a favour.

Interesting how you speak for other as well.
I wonder why people here keep on coming back for more.

(August 8, 2014 at 7:23 am)Riketto Wrote:

(August 6, 2014 at 2:05 pm)Losty Wrote: I cannot levitate. No amount of hard work will change that.

Hard work mixed with good planning always take you far in the good and in the bad.
Human emancipation can take you very far in the good.
As a drop of water ending in the ocean become the ocean also you sooner or later will merge in the cosmic consciousness to become one with it.
At that stage you can do whatever you like even levitate but why levitate when you are the master of the element.
You don't have to show anyone how good you are and beside at that stage you don't live anymore physically speaking which is a bonus considering that spirituality is at the very top while the fundamental element that compose the universe are at the bottom of consciousness.

My beloved Risk thou hast forsaken me with a giant mound of word salad.

(August 8, 2014 at 9:12 am)Losty Wrote: My beloved Risk thou hast forsaken me with a giant mound of word salad.

May i ask you what's on your plate today dear?

It's really starting to piss me off that this thread is in the "philosophy" subsection. Clearly, Riketto is engaging with neither academic philosophy, nor even implying a respect for philosophy by using rationed arguments or any extension of logical ideas. Someone please make me mod for a day so I can banish him to the "Woo" forums where he belongs!

[modhat] I've moved this to the pseudoscience forum as the staff agree that it has little to do with philosophy now, if indeed it ever did.

Fidel [/modhat]

(August 8, 2014 at 10:16 am)Riketto Wrote:

(August 8, 2014 at 9:12 am)Losty Wrote: My beloved Ricky thou hast forsaken me with a giant mound of word salad.

May i ask you what's on your plate today dear?

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(August 8, 2014 at 2:51 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: [modhat] I've moved this to the pseudoscience forum as the staff agree that it has little to do with philosophy now, if indeed it ever did.

Fidel [/modhat]

One small step for a mod. One giant step forward for the forums.

(August 8, 2014 at 3:07 pm)Losty Wrote:

(August 8, 2014 at 10:16 am)Riketto Wrote: May i ask you what's on your plate today dear?

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Very healthy.
Plenty of good things except for the onion.
keep the good work.