(August 8, 2014 at 1:06 pm)Bad Writer Wrote: There have been many voices of reason on this thread, but, so far, Michael's voice by far outweighs our own due to his history with Dr. Wakefield and the unique position into which that places him.

Sir, thank you for choosing to post here.

He's not a doctor, not anymore anyway. He was stripped (rightfully) of his medical license by the general medical council.

Didn't stop him fleeing to America though to carry on giving erroneous advice.

Anyway I have said what I wanted to say, I have put up with so many dickheads who believe they know everything, much of what is reflected by this whole forum, if you don't like what I believe then fuck you. Someone needs to grow balls and bring an end to this whole stupid argument, so I am finished here, have fun without me.

I think you've said that before. Bye.

(August 8, 2014 at 6:52 pm)psychoslice Wrote: Someone needs to grow balls and bring an end to this whole stupid argument, so I am finished here, have fun without me.

Shake, shake, shake, shaker's law.

(August 8, 2014 at 6:52 pm)psychoslice Wrote: Someone needs to grow balls and bring an end to this whole stupid argument, so I am finished here, have fun without me.

Michael did exactly that. It's amazing how quick you are to run off, especially since he addressed every one of your concerns in one, fell swoop.

Allow me the pleasure of addressing your latest concern though; we were having fun with you, and we will undoubtedly continue to have fun without you.

(August 8, 2014 at 6:52 pm)psychoslice Wrote: Anyway I have said what I wanted to say, I have put up with so many dickheads who believe they know everything, much of what is reflected by this whole forum, if you don't like what I believe then fuck you. Someone needs to grow balls and bring an end to this whole stupid argument, so I am finished here, have fun without me.

No, wait, come back! I also wanted to show links proving that you are absolutely and definitively wrong, and that your belief is founded on the anti-government suspicions of Republican religious nuts.

(August 8, 2014 at 6:52 pm)psychoslice Wrote: Anyway I have said what I wanted to say, I have put up with so many dickheads who believe they know everything,

Not everything, just more than you. Which isn't hard, given how your entire position is nothing more than a vague intuitive leap based on zero evidence. But to see you running at top speed once someone with actual know-how like Michael shows up, kinda hints that you already knew that.

I just want to say sorry to everyone, I have said terrible things on this thread, I see you all as intelligent beings, I suppose my belief in anti vaccines is because of my experience with vaccines, I experienced so much pain at that time, having fits and suffering horrible migraines that felt like my brain was cooking. I have to say that I really don't know the answer, but I still think that we should investigate these vaccines and completely make sure we are not poisoning our children. I don't know any of you, and the horrible things I said to you I hope you can forgive me, thank you.

The thing is. I'm not even mad.

I feel sad for you. For your pain and your inability to decipher truth from fiction. Get well soon p'slice.

psychoslice
While the vast majority of people derive great benefit from vaccines without any lasting side effects.
There are a few, you included who's lives are obviously ruined by them.
People who suffer adverse side effects are included in the statistics used by health authorities to determine policy.
By not much publicity is given to the negative statistics for fear of lowering the uptake of vaccines.

I remember there was a condition known as Gulf War Syndrome, one of the causes investigated was that of soldiers being given multiple vaccines in a short space of time. Both US and UK soldiers have reported the same symptoms. Fatigue, headache, muscle pain. The data from the study was inconclusive.
The multiple vaccine MMR was also thought to pose higher risks than individual ones, again the data from studies doesn't show conclusive evidence.

For you personally, living with severe problems, it would be callous to say oh well if you weren't vaccinated, you could have been blind from measles, permanently disabled from polio etc. but that is how the authorities make their decisions, statistical outcome.

Don't be sorry for what you've said, you've done nothing to cause offense.