(August 19, 2014 at 4:59 am)revivin Wrote: What better evidence could ask for?

Literally any at all? You can't even point me to a part in the gospels where these people even claimed to have met Jesus. So where are you getting the idea that they did, if their own writings say otherwise?

(August 19, 2014 at 5:01 am)Esquilax Wrote: You can't even point me

I'm encouraging you to use a Bible search engine since anywhere you find Matthew in Matthew or John and John you will find what you are looking for.

The most important thing to me is we should be able to glean some facts from the NT. One of those facts is that Paul said he spent 15 days with Peter and they both agreed on the gospel and their eyewitness testimony.

Can you ask for a better proof?

(August 19, 2014 at 5:07 am)revivin Wrote:

(August 19, 2014 at 5:01 am)Esquilax Wrote: You can't even point me

I'm encouraging you to use a Bible search engine since anywhere you find Matthew in Matthew or John and John you will find what you are looking for.

The most important thing to me is we should be able to glean some facts from the NT. One of those facts is that Paul said he spent 15 days with Peter and they both agreed on the gospel and their eyewitness testimony.

Can you ask for a better proof?

Your repeated assertion is not a proof.

(August 19, 2014 at 5:10 am)Tobie Wrote: Your repeated assertion is not a proof.

What would be better proof than the points of evidence I gave?

(August 19, 2014 at 5:13 am)revivin Wrote:

(August 19, 2014 at 5:10 am)Tobie Wrote: Your repeated assertion is not a proof.

What would be better proof than the points of evidence I gave?

Anything other than a simple claim.

I can claim that I am god and, using your own logic, you would have to accept it as evidence that I am.

(August 19, 2014 at 5:15 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: I can claim that I am god and, using your own logic, you would have to accept it as evidence.

We have 27 books of the NT of multiply corroborated testimony. How many books do you have for your claim?

I think this might be the first time the human race has ever heard you claim you are God.

(August 19, 2014 at 5:17 am)revivin Wrote:

(August 19, 2014 at 5:15 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: I can claim that I am god and, using your own logic, you would have to accept it as evidence.

We have 27 books of the NT of multiply corroborated testimony. How many books do you have for your claim?

I think this might be the first time the human race has ever heard you claim you are God.

Again, the Bible is the claim, so you cannot use anything in it to prove it's claims.

(August 19, 2014 at 5:19 am)Tobie Wrote: Again, the Bible is the claim, so you cannot use anything in it to prove it's claims.

If you only want to accept the Bible as the claim then what would you allow as the proof?

(August 19, 2014 at 5:20 am)revivin Wrote:

(August 19, 2014 at 5:19 am)Tobie Wrote: Again, the Bible is the claim, so you cannot use anything in it to prove it's claims.

If you only want to accept the Bible as the claim then what would you allow as the proof?

Something testable and independent of the claims would be nice.

(August 19, 2014 at 5:07 am)revivin Wrote:

(August 19, 2014 at 5:01 am)Esquilax Wrote: You can't even point me

I'm encouraging you to use a Bible search engine since anywhere you find Matthew in Matthew or John and John you will find what you are looking for.

The most important thing to me is we should be able to glean some facts from the NT. One of those facts is that Paul said he spent 15 days with Peter and they both agreed on the gospel and their eyewitness testimony.

Can you ask for a better proof?

So, to be clear, you're making a claim and then refusing to even provide a citation that this claim is official, biblically?

You do understand that the gospel authors are anonymous, right?