I had a girlfriend that could fart on command.

(August 29, 2014 at 12:03 pm)Diablo Wrote: So christians have to love gay people if they live next to them? Yippee.

Yes. If they are decent Christians. Many are not.

Regards
DL

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(August 29, 2014 at 12:11 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: I've never really read that passage as mandating an emotion so much as a practice. It might be unworkable rhetoric for many of us, but I suspect that people who devote themselves to consistent acts of loving-kindness to others (and not just "loved ones") eventually develop a strong disposition to feel compassionate and loving toward most people most of the time. Like Michael said: a movement of the will, not an emotion -- though I think the practice plants and reinforces the emotion over time.

No argument on man to man. I did put a question to Michael just above. Please have a go at it.

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DL

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(August 29, 2014 at 12:43 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: ...thereby proving that atheists can also cherry pick when it suits their agenda.

Was that for me?

I was an atheist or non-believer at one time but I am now a Gnostic Christian.

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DL

(August 29, 2014 at 12:54 pm)theophilus Wrote:

(August 29, 2014 at 11:58 am)Greatest I am Wrote: an emotion like love cannot be commanded or demanded from people.

The love that God commands isn't an emotion. It is an act of the will in which you choose to do what is good for that person regardless of how you feel about him. Acting in love toward a person sometimes has an effect on how you feel about him. If you regularly do good for someone you dislike you might begin to like him.

(August 29, 2014 at 12:03 pm)Diablo Wrote: So christians have to love gay people if they live next to them? Yippee.

Christians should love gay people regardless of whether they live next to them or not. Love doesn't necessarily mean approving of what they do. If someone is engaging in activity that is sinful love requires warning them of the consequences of their actions. These sites might help you understand how Christians should express their love for gays.

http://www.strengthinweakness.org/

http://truefreedomtrust.co.uk/start_here

http://www.christopheryuan.com/mobile/index.html

I had a quick look at two of those sites (thanks for posting them), and they seem to fall into the 'you can change or abstain' category, which is what I expected. So those people don't really love gay people per se, thay just want them to stop being gay, which is not the same thing.

'Sinful love'! What's sinful is trying to deny people their basic human rights.

(August 29, 2014 at 12:54 pm)theophilus Wrote:

(August 29, 2014 at 11:58 am)Greatest I am Wrote: an emotion like love cannot be commanded or demanded from people.

The love that God commands isn't an emotion. It is an act of the will in which you choose to do what is good for that person regardless of how you feel about him. Acting in love toward a person sometimes has an effect on how you feel about him. If you regularly do good for someone you dislike you might begin to like him.

That is all fine for people to people. No argument.

Do you think reciprocity is a part of love? Must love be shared or is it real even if it only goes one way?

Also, please see answer 10 and reply as to how that works with God.

Regards
DL

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(August 29, 2014 at 1:31 pm)KUSA Wrote: I had a girlfriend that could fart on command.

You and her must have been the life of the party. Not much of a party.

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DL

(August 29, 2014 at 12:07 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Can you love on command?

sometimes I need a little blue pill and a glass of water first.

Fucking science! It's able to do what alot of men prayed to happen. I'm sure there are alot of the faithfull that can rely better on said blue pill

(August 29, 2014 at 1:42 pm)Greatest I am Wrote:

(August 29, 2014 at 1:31 pm)KUSA Wrote: I had a girlfriend that could fart on command.

You and her must have been the life of the party.

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's GF's ass.

(August 29, 2014 at 1:41 pm)Diablo Wrote: [

I had a quick look at two of those sites (thanks for posting them), and they seem to fall into the 'you can change or abstain' category, which is what I expected. So those people don't really love gay people per se, thay just want them to stop being gay, which is not the same thing.

'Sinful love'! What's sinful is trying to deny people their basic human rights.

It is institutionalized. Just like pedophile protection by the Vatican and our governments who do not seek justice for the victims. Shame on North America.

You will like the look ths woman sends her Bishop and church.

Yet her and her husband are still putting money into a church that has a corrupt morality.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/11/08/m...+Recent%29

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DL

What you have failed to account for in the op. Is that for Christ the word love did not exist. Noe was their any one singular all encompassing word to describe all 'love.' No the Greeks had five different words that describe what we would considered different aspects of the word love. 4 are used in the bible

There was
Agape, or the type of love we are to have for God, which btw is the word Jesus was using in the passage you quoted. This for. Of love is based in fear and respect.

Eros, is physical passionate love.

Phillia, this is known as a brotherly love, it is the love experienced in a platonic way between friends.

And storge', this is the love felt from parents to offspring.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_words_for_love

We are commanded to give God agape. This type of love is something we can indeed provide on demand.

(August 30, 2014 at 2:33 pm)Drich Wrote: What you have failed to account for in the op. Is that for Christ the word love did not exist. Noe was their any one singular all encompassing word to describe all 'love.' No the Greeks had five different words that describe what we would considered different aspects of the word love. 4 are used in the bible

There was
Agape, or the type of love we are to have for God, which btw is the word Jesus was using in the passage you quoted. This for. Of love is based in fear and respect.

Eros, is physical passionate love.

Phillia, this is known as a brotherly love, it is the love experienced in a platonic way between friends.

And storge', this is the love felt from parents to offspring.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_words_for_love

We are commanded to give God agape. This type of love is something we can indeed provide on demand.

Total garbage. Fear and respect are not love, they're fear and respect.

(August 30, 2014 at 2:36 pm)Diablo Wrote:

(August 30, 2014 at 2:33 pm)Drich Wrote: What you have failed to account for in the op. Is that for Christ the word love did not exist. Noe was their any one singular all encompassing word to describe all 'love.' No the Greeks had five different words that describe what we would considered different aspects of the word love. 4 are used in the bible

There was
Agape, or the type of love we are to have for God, which btw is the word Jesus was using in the passage you quoted. This for. Of love is based in fear and respect.

Eros, is physical passionate love.

Phillia, this is known as a brotherly love, it is the love experienced in a platonic way between friends.

And storge', this is the love felt from parents to offspring.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_words_for_love

We are commanded to give God agape. This type of love is something we can indeed provide on demand.

Total garbage. Fear and respect are not love, they're fear and respect.

You do know your arguing with an ancient culture's vocabulary don't you? speaking a second language I would have thought you would know certain aspects of the host language is often lost in translation.

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Plus if you do not like my take on agape you can always stick with what wiki says about it that is why I left the link.