Hello christians, As a former muslim I realized that I may not have enough information about christianity. What I want to see here is your opinions.(no preaching ofc.)
I mean Why do you believe? what are the main reasons that made you believe christianity?
Well of course you can't easily convert me. But I want an objective discussion here I will not be prejudged.
I am an agnostic person. So I agree that your god could be real(slight possibility but yes). But as far as I know, he is the most cruel ass in the universe.
But here, you have the chance to save my soul. Explain to me why your god is not an ass.
here is the deal.
You tell me why do you believe And I ask my questions about it. At the end of the day if you're good maybe you can even convert me..
But there is a possibility for you to become an atheist after this discussion(of course if you're objective enough) "ye be warned."

I'm not a Christian, but I think I can answer one of you questions regarding why they chose to be Christian.

Let's see, first off, they were most likely taught at an early age so it would stick to them. They were taught from the Bible that there is this omniscient being named God that created everything that there is to see, smell, feel, taste, hear, sense, measure. Of course, if you actually wanted to actually buy into that stuff from Genesis, you'll learn about God creating everything in 6 days and resting on the 7th, even though somehow he took the same amount of time creating both the Earth and Universe (really awkward though). Once you have that engraved in your head, you learn about how faith plays a major role in life (somehow) and you even learn about the "great" teachings taught from the bible like moral values, and you learn how "great" Jesus Christ was when he first walked on the Earth to greet people and to teach them about great things. To prove that Jesus was God himself, his miracles and his walking on water scene and more were spoken of showing off that he's indeed the Heavenly Father because no other human has Supernatural powers like Jesus had. Once they bought into that, there are other things like holy sacrament, salvation, baptism and all of that drama. The Bible makes them feel safe about their beliefs because of an idea called Faith, so no mattter what, they'll always stick with Christianity.

Woah, I think that I sounded a bit like a Christian myself, oh god!

No superstarr you sound nothing like a christian like I said before you have no understanding of the scriptures.
annatar you can't deal for your salvation because salvation is a gift of Grace to be received. If you could deal for it you would have to make the deal with God, salvation is His and His alone to give, so making a deal with christians will do you no good. Apparently you are not being move by the Holy Spirit by the way you've presented yourself and this means you will not be receptive to the replies you might receive. This type of post has been presented before and the best that I can remember no christians responded. Why should we open ourselves to judgment when all you are trying to do is play games.

Quote:you have no understanding of the scriptures.

That's a plus.

I have no problems opening up to my reasons and having an objective discussion. If you drop the pretense then I think it could be a beneficial discussion. I'm not here to convert you nor preach. To answer your question:

I believe in God because:
1- I have faith
2- I see evidence for God in my life, relationships and nature
3- I perceive God's influences as a part of reality
4- This is confirmed in other believers
5- This is confirmed by a multitude of various religious texts
6- I enjoy the sense of community
7- I see personal benefit from following Christianity
8- I see benefit to society from belief in God

probably more but that will suffice from the top of my head.

Quote:What are the main reasons that made you believe christianity?

I'm a recovering Catholic.

Same reason you were a Muslim; accident of birth and being taught as an uncritical child child, accepting whatever aduts told you, no matter how irrational or absurd..

Relatively few human beings ever seriously challenge the beliefs with which they were reared. By that I mean to the point of rejecting them.


I find adult conversion to any faith baffling. I can only conclude such people have deep psychological issues which require a powerful crutch to help them deal with life. Most sane people use alcohol.

Quote:If you could reason with religious people,there wouldn't be any (Greg House)

(July 4, 2010 at 1:54 am)tackattack Wrote: I have no problems opening up to my reasons and having an objective discussion. If you drop the pretense then I think it could be a beneficial discussion. I'm not here to convert you nor preach. To answer your question:

I believe in God because:
1- I have faith
2- I see evidence for God in my life, relationships and nature
3- I perceive God's influences as a part of reality
4- This is confirmed in other believers
5- This is confirmed by a multitude of various religious texts
6- I enjoy the sense of community
7- I see personal benefit from following Christianity
8- I see benefit to society from belief in God

probably more but that will suffice from the top of my head.

Tack you are the anti-me we must never meet or there will be an explosion I'm tellin ya.

1. I believe because I accept what is presented in the bible to be true and I act on that.

2. God isn't an ass when you look at the evidence presented in the bible accurately.

(July 4, 2010 at 5:43 am)fr0d0 Wrote: 1. I believe because I accept what is presented in the bible to be true and I act on that.

That circular thing again.

(July 4, 2010 at 5:43 am)fr0d0 Wrote: 2. God isn't an ass when you look at the evidence presented in the bible accurately.

To worship anyone who isn't an ass is the dumbest thing I've heard in a long time.

I reckon this isn't gonna convince annatar.

(July 4, 2010 at 5:43 am)fr0d0 Wrote: 1. I believe because I accept what is presented in the bible to be true and I act on that.

2. God isn't an ass when you look at the evidence presented in the bible accurately.

OMFG!!!!!!!!

Is that before or after you've "re-interpreted" it to sound peachy keen?