(November 28, 2014 at 1:59 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: I mean what real motive does a christer have to be moral when their blood price is paid. I mean a christian can go around murdering and fucking whom ever they want and all they have to say is "god please forgive me" and boom entrance to heaven.

only if 'they' think God is a fool.

God is not bound by what some of us think to be escape clauses (Which is how things like the crusades and the inqusition were justified)

God/Christ on our judgement day will cut down all of our motives and intentions as well as our actions. In this way judgement is complete. What will God be looking for? where our truly heart lies. Did it revele in sin or did we hate the sin we are in? If we hated our sin and had to kill a guy then we will find attonement. If however it is as you say and we want to go around murdering people then God will find us guilty.

As Christ says in Mat 7 'Not everyone who calls out Lord Lord will he recognise.'

(December 1, 2014 at 4:08 pm)Drich Wrote:

(November 28, 2014 at 1:59 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: I mean what real motive does a christer have to be moral when their blood price is paid. I mean a christian can go around murdering and fucking whom ever they want and all they have to say is "god please forgive me" and boom entrance to heaven.

only if 'they' think God is a fool.

God is not bound by what some of us think to be escape clauses (Which is how things like the crusades and the inqusition were justified)

God/Christ on our judgement day will cut down all of our motives and intentions as well as our actions. In this way judgement is complete. What will God be looking for? where our truly heart lies. Did it revele in sin or did we hate the sin we are in? If we hated our sin and had to kill a guy then we will find attonement. If however it is as you say and we want to go around murdering people then God will find us guilty.

As Christ says in Mat 7 'Not everyone who calls out Lord Lord will he recognise.'

Dirch in reality you can follow the moralities of the bible and do terrible things the bible says. but in reality if you accept jesus you can just throw away morals and say the devil made me do it and still get into heaven if you repent before that time comes.

(December 1, 2014 at 4:08 pm)Drich Wrote: God is not bound by what some of us think to be escape clauses (Which is how things like the crusades and the inqusition were justified)

Of course, why should god not take some pride in his finest moments? Killing off the jews while marching through Europe on the first crusade. Then killing unbelievers all throughout Anatolia and last but not least, killing all the inhabitants of Jerusalem when sacking the city in 1099. Of course, besides of muslims, again jews and probably some christians on the side, since they got in the way of the holy warriors.

The inquisition speaks for itself with their heroes like Jakob Sprenger, author of the Malleus Maleficarum, whom even some high ranking church leaders considered insane. And let's not forget the happy heretics roastings in Spain, after they had finally destroyed a civilization that was their better in almost every aspects of life.

What a wonderful god! Where's the nearest church, so that I can give him his due?

(December 1, 2014 at 4:20 pm)abaris Wrote:

(December 1, 2014 at 4:08 pm)Drich Wrote: God is not bound by what some of us think to be escape clauses (Which is how things like the crusades and the inqusition were justified)

Of course, why should god not take some pride in his finest moments? Killing off the jews while marching through Europe on the first crusade. Then killing unbelievers all throughout Anatolia and last but not least, killing all the inhabitants of Jerusalem when sacking the city in 1099. Of course, besides of muslims, again jews and probably some christians on the side, since they got in the way of the holy warriors.

The inquisition speaks for itself with their heroes like Jakob Sprenger, author of the Malleus Maleficarum, whom even some high ranking church leaders considered insane. And let's not forget the happy heretics roastings in Spain, after they had finally destroyed a civilization that was their better in almost every aspects of life.

What a wonderful god! Where's the nearest church, so that I can give him his due?

Then again when god does something terrible people blame it on the devil to keep gods image shiny and clean.

Adult humans invoking The Bible as a guide to morality should be carefully monitored for psychopathic behavior. The Bible is nothing more than a toddler's long temper tantrum followed by the narcissistic ramblings of a pubescent attention whore.

(December 1, 2014 at 4:35 pm)dyresand Wrote: Then again when god does something terrible people blame it on the devil to keep gods image shiny and clean.

So read this part again.

(December 1, 2014 at 4:08 pm)Drich Wrote: God is not bound by what some of us think to be escape clauses (Which is how things like the crusades and the inqusition were justified)

There's no Satan in the picture, only the god works in misterious ways bullshit to justify atrocities.

(December 1, 2014 at 4:38 pm)abaris Wrote:

(December 1, 2014 at 4:35 pm)dyresand Wrote: Then again when god does something terrible people blame it on the devil to keep gods image shiny and clean.

So read this part again.

(December 1, 2014 at 4:08 pm)Drich Wrote: God is not bound by what some of us think to be escape clauses (Which is how things like the crusades and the inqusition were justified)

There's no Satan in the picture, only the god works in misterious ways bullshit to justify atrocities.

god doesn't work in mysterious ways if he existed he would be the worlds greatest asshole winning the award every year.

(December 1, 2014 at 4:43 pm)dyresand Wrote: god doesn't work in mysterious ways if he existed he would be the worlds greatest asshole winning the award every year.

Well, don't tell me. Save it for drich.

Re the OP, they're called brown-noser-points. Every Christian wants them. That's why they try (though still fail) to be moral.

(December 2, 2014 at 7:21 am)whateverist Wrote: Re the OP, they're called brown-noser-points. Every Christian wants them. That's why they try (though still fail) to be moral.

Like Douglas Yim who murdered and atheist because the atheist didn't believe in god also drinking was involved Douglas didn't like what he heard and murdered his own friend. And this is something that is not even new theist kill atheists and call us devils and demons and want to get away with killing another human being because they do not acknowledge a god.