(January 2, 2015 at 11:40 pm)Lao Shizi Wrote: AND NO ONE DIED.

I know right? It's almost as if a spoon is more likely to get you killed than a knife nowadays.......first world problems, huh?

(January 2, 2015 at 11:10 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Is that the same kind of silly argument like, if you take away automatic weapons then school shooters will just kill 30 people with a hammer?

I find that sort of argument ludicrous to the nth degree.

No one has ever used an automatic weapon in a school shooting in the U.S.

-or an assault rifle. It's almost as though we've been chasing phantoms with our guns laws these past few decades. We leaned on all of the firearms that -weren't- contributing to the statistics. Oops?

Your bullshit reliance on pointless definitions is not winning you any points, Chas.

(January 3, 2015 at 12:48 am)Minimalist Wrote: Your bullshit reliance on pointless definitions is not winning you any points, Chas.

Only your willful ignorance and hysteria allow you to believe they are pointless.

(January 2, 2015 at 11:14 pm)Heywood Wrote:

(January 2, 2015 at 10:54 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Unhealthy eating Min, unhealthy eating. Even the devil has his day. If we took the spoons away, fuckers would just eat with their hands though.
(heart disease, diabetes, stroke, cancer, liver disease, high blood pressure - it's an impressive resume, no shame in coming in behind all that)

Most Chinese people don't have access to guns....so they don't go on school shooting sprees. Instead they go on school knifing sprees.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chenpeng_Vi...l_stabbing

My response was for this reply only, the idea that if people don't have guns, they will just use knives as an argument repulsed me.
I realize we can't close the barn door, too late. I am not against guns. I have a problem with semi automatic weapons in the hands of children at shooting ranges. I have a problem with classrooms full of 1st aand 2nd graders being mowed down with semi automatic weapons. Semi or fully, so powerful either way. I don't have the answers. I wish there was an answer to what causes people to go on rampages. The mental health system brought into this awareness.

My mother was shot with a rifle when I was 7. She was throwing a Tupperware party. I was upstairs in my room playing with another woman's little girl. This wasn't a rampage. The teen boys that lived across the street were trippin' on LSD, my mom had a globe light that changed colors (70's hippies). The boys shot at it into our living room. One lady was grazed across the forehead. Unfortunately, my mother was nicked in the side of the neck, and a bullet went through her chest on the right side. Collapsed lung. I heard glass breaking and ran downstairs to razz her about dropping a glass. I saw her lying on the floor in a pool of blood. I will never forget it.

She survived.

You would think that I would be extremely anti gun. I am not. They aren't for me necessarily. I am not educated in the subject. I just now the shock and sadness I feel when I hear of tragedies. The argument that people will be dangerous with guns or not is valid. The destruction caused by different weapons is another story, and is not a valid argument for pro guns. IMO.

(January 3, 2015 at 1:08 am)Kitty Galore Wrote:

(January 2, 2015 at 11:14 pm)Heywood Wrote: Most Chinese people don't have access to guns....so they don't go on school shooting sprees. Instead they go on school knifing sprees.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chenpeng_Vi...l_stabbing

My response was for this reply only, the idea that if people don't have guns, they will just use knives as an argument repulsed me.

Why does that repulse you? Half of the murders in the U.S. are committed with firearms. People are using something else for the other half.

(January 3, 2015 at 1:11 am)Chas Wrote:

(January 3, 2015 at 1:08 am)Kitty Galore Wrote: My response was for this reply only, the idea that if people don't have guns, they will just use knives as an argument repulsed me.

Why does that repulse you? Half of the murders in the U.S. are committed with firearms. People are using something else for the other half.

I realized my post was vague, I edited it to explain my view. At least try to.

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I am not feeling well and not able to express myself as eloquently as I would like.

(January 2, 2015 at 10:41 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(January 2, 2015 at 4:38 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Nowhere else in the world? Really? I've seen people openly carry automatic weapons in several Central American countries. Why do so many people say 'the world' and mean only the United States and Western Europe.

So that's your model for the United States of the future? Honduras? Thanks for nothing.

Typical reply when people are reminding people that countries other than western Europe exist. Of course I don't want the US to be like Honduras. I'm just correcting something that he said that was factually incorrect. Extremely factually incorrect.

(January 2, 2015 at 10:34 pm)Heywood Wrote: Yeah but I don't like the fact that some people use spoons irresponsibly and eat themselves to early grave. Since I can't muster enough political will to ban spoons....the next best thing is to pass laws to make it easier to sue and bankrupt spoon manufacturers. Once we've destroyed the market for spoons....we'll move on to sporks.

Since you can't eat another person to death, the thing I don't like is how public discourse so frequently includes arguments as idiotic as yours.