(March 4, 2015 at 3:17 am)robvalue Wrote: Please answer this simple question Huggy. Pick just yes or no, and don't try and dodge the question by explaining why you can't pick yes or no. It's a simple question.

This is a hypothetical scenario only. Assume you hear the voice of God. It's definitely God, the one you worship. There is absolutely no doubt about it. You're totally sure. He tells you to kill all your family and friends.

Will you obey and kill your family and friends? Yes or no.

Other theists are also welcome to answer with either yes or no too. I've not seen a single one ever give an honest, simple answer to this honest, simple question. If you think the scenario is impossible, then it doesn't matter which answer you say, does it? So just pick one. Except it already happened in the bible, Abraham was instructed to kill his son, and he agreed. He had real faith.

Oh, God wouldn't make you go through with it? Cool, then the answer is yes. You would fully intend to kill them, assuming he will stop you at the last minute. So "yes" will cover this.

So yes or no only please.

If you want a little bit more time to think, why not consider this scenario first:

No

"I'm not suggesting that" isn't a clear answer?Do you need to have it all in caps or underlined? What precisely did you find unclear or evasive in that statement?

(March 4, 2015 at 4:47 am)Huggy74 Wrote:

(March 4, 2015 at 3:17 am)robvalue Wrote: Please answer this simple question Huggy. Pick just yes or no, and don't try and dodge the question by explaining why you can't pick yes or no. It's a simple question.

This is a hypothetical scenario only. Assume you hear the voice of God. It's definitely God, the one you worship. There is absolutely no doubt about it. You're totally sure. He tells you to kill all your family and friends.

Will you obey and kill your family and friends? Yes or no.

Other theists are also welcome to answer with either yes or no too. I've not seen a single one ever give an honest, simple answer to this honest, simple question. If you think the scenario is impossible, then it doesn't matter which answer you say, does it? So just pick one. Except it already happened in the bible, Abraham was instructed to kill his son, and he agreed. He had real faith.

Oh, God wouldn't make you go through with it? Cool, then the answer is yes. You would fully intend to kill them, assuming he will stop you at the last minute. So "yes" will cover this.

So yes or no only please.

If you want a little bit more time to think, why not consider this scenario first:

No

Wow! OK, well you have my respect here, for giving the first real answer ever to this question. And it's a great answer. I wonder if any other theists will be so brave?

(March 4, 2015 at 4:50 am)Norman Humann Wrote: "I'm not suggesting that" isn't a clear answer?Do you need to have it all in caps or underlined? What precisely did you find unclear or evasive in that statement?

I just need what I ASKED for, a yes or no.

(March 4, 2015 at 4:59 am)Huggy74 Wrote:

(March 4, 2015 at 4:50 am)Norman Humann Wrote: "I'm not suggesting that" isn't a clear answer?Do you need to have it all in caps or underlined? What precisely did you find unclear or evasive in that statement?

I just need what I ASKED for, a yes or no.

Do you mind answering the question what in Steel's answer was unclear? He said no in more than one word so it's not a no?

(March 4, 2015 at 5:02 am)Norman Humann Wrote:

(March 4, 2015 at 4:59 am)Huggy74 Wrote: I just need what I ASKED for, a yes or no.

Do you mind answering the question what in Steel's answer was unclear? He said no in more than one word so it's not a no?

The purpose of the question was to make the position clear. I want the Yes or No on record.
Say, for example if you asked a kid if he stole something Y/N and his reply was,
"I am not intimating that I did not steal it"

Would you take that as a clear answer to your question?

(March 4, 2015 at 5:18 am)Huggy74 Wrote: The purpose of the question was to make the position clear. I want the Yes or No on record.
Say, for example if you asked a kid if he stole something Y/N and his reply was,
"I am not intimating that I did not steal it"

Would you take that as a clear answer to your question?

Wow. What a dumb and irrelevant analogy.

(March 1, 2015 at 12:41 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: I am not intimating that a planetary body cannot shift its orbit.

SC didn't use a double negative like your example. He's falt out saying no.

Oh, but I forgot. You need translations from Greek and Hebrew and the etymology of the word 'no' to make my point valid, right?

Seriously. Quit playing dumb. You wanted an answer and you got it. Stop changing the subject to hide the fact that you can't take a rebuttal.

I'm going to ask you again: do you have anything valuable to add to the discussion in this thread? Hint: the little piss contest you're trying to start isn't an argument.

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Oh and because I know you're going to point this out, no. I wouldn't take that answer as clear. But it's not equivalent to Steel's reply to you.

(March 4, 2015 at 5:26 am)Norman Humann Wrote: SC didn't use a double negative like your example. He's falt out saying no.

Really?

(March 4, 2015 at 5:18 am)Huggy74 Wrote: "I am not intimating that I did not steal it"

(March 4, 2015 at 1:59 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: I am not intimating that a planetary body cannot shift its orbit.

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(March 4, 2015 at 5:26 am)Norman Humann Wrote: Oh and because I know you're going to point this out, no. I wouldn't take that answer as clear. But it's not equivalent to Steel's reply to you.

See above.

(March 4, 2015 at 5:44 am)Huggy74 Wrote:

(March 4, 2015 at 5:26 am)Norman Humann Wrote: SC didn't use a double negative like your example. He's falt out saying no.

Really?

(March 4, 2015 at 5:18 am)Huggy74 Wrote: "I am not intimating that I did not steal it"

(March 4, 2015 at 1:59 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: I am not intimating that a planetary body cannot shift its orbit.

Wowee.

You realise that in your example both negatives refer to the speaker, and in Steel's answer only of them did that, don't you? Here, I'll underline it for you:




And of course, you completely and utterly ignore the rest of my post, including the infamous yes or no question that you claim you always answer. Still nitpicking to make it seem like you're "winning", I see.

Apparently you don't like questions too much, so I'll phrase it as a statement: put forward a valid argument or stop digging. You're embarrassing yourself.

(March 4, 2015 at 5:50 am)Norman Humann Wrote:

(March 4, 2015 at 5:44 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Really?

Wowee.

You realise that in your example both negatives refer to the speaker, and in Steel's answer only of them did that, don't you? Here, I'll underline it for you:

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(March 4, 2015 at 5:18 am)Huggy74 Wrote: "I am not intimating that I did not steal it"

(March 4, 2015 at 1:59 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: I am not intimating that a planetary body cannot shift its orbit.

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http://www.grammar-monster.com/glossary/...gative.htm

Quote:What Are Double Negatives? (with Examples)
A double negative is usually produced by combining the negative form of verb (e.g., cannot, did not, have not) with a negative pronoun (e.g., nothing, nobody), a negative adverb(e.g., never, hardly) or a negative conjunction (e.g., neither/nor).

"not" is a negative adverb, "cannot" is a negative verb.
Both were used in the same sentence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_negative

Quote:A double negative occurs when two forms of negation are used in the same sentence.