(March 17, 2015 at 6:08 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: Come now, Steel. Hasn't Huggies convinced you yet that theories are just wild assed guesses.

They don't even answer the questions they purport to with a yes or a no!

(March 17, 2015 at 6:06 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:

(March 17, 2015 at 2:44 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: examples of speciation do not count because the definition of species means.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/species
meaning "speciation" is just a genetic variation of the same species, that are isolated from breeding with each other.
Developing a new breed of Dog for example is "speciation" by definition.

Wrong again. Speciation has a different meaning than "species" ... probably because they're, you know, two different words.

Argument by definition fails when you choose the wrong definition.

You're new to this, aren't you?

from your link

Quote:noun
1.the evolutionary development of a biological species, as by geographical isolation of a group of individuals from the main stock

How is this different from what i said?

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(March 17, 2015 at 6:04 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote:

(March 17, 2015 at 5:28 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Yes and millions are spent on automobile research and development, but you can still build a car with basic knowledge...

Well shit. It's such a shame all those engineers spend so many years studying when all they need is basic knowledge.

And all that money going to R&D. Complete and utter waste. Don't need R&D when all the knowledge to build a car is already there. You learn it in 10th grade shop class.

You should build your own plane with your basic knowledge (All you need is more lift than gravity and more thrust than drag!) and post the video to prove us all wrong! Don't worry about stability and control theories, as long as the plane flies it's not important whether it does a nose dive without input or departs immediately. Don't worry about when/where you want to trip the turbulent boundary layer. You've already figured it out with brute force with your more thrust than drag knowledge! Don't worry about which NACA airfoil you should use. You'd need to use Navier-Stokes to find out how much lift is created over iterative portions of the wing. So that's out because it uses gravitation. Theories be damned! We can do this without them! Don't worry about power transmission. Again, we've figured this out with our more thrust than drag knowledge. Control surfaces? I say yes! Where? Somewhere! How do we counter torque moments? With anti-torquers! How do we make sure our plane will fly? Put it in a wind tunnel, and if it doesn't explode, wa la! Plane.

wright brothers?

(March 17, 2015 at 6:27 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(March 17, 2015 at 6:06 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Wrong again. Speciation has a different meaning than "species" ... probably because they're, you know, two different words.

Argument by definition fails when you choose the wrong definition.

You're new to this, aren't you?

from your link

Quote:noun
1.the evolutionary development of a biological species, as by geographical isolation of a group of individuals from the main stock

How is this different from what i said?

That little "1" there indicates that there's more than one definition, but hey, why would you stop simply assuming that whatever definition is most convenient to you is the only one that exists now?

(March 17, 2015 at 6:27 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: wright brothers?

Do you think the Wright brothers were just yokels who had a rudimentary knowledge of aeronautics, or that their aircraft were particularly successful?

The Wright Flyer was amazing for its time, but hardly an aircraft that was airworthy. It flew for 200 feet on its longest flight. So yeah, with rudimentary knowledge and the ability to make changes to your design without , you can make an aircraft that will take you down the street. For an aircraft that has any use, you need some education and you need to move past basic theory.

But you are still experimenting using the Theory of Gravity.

(March 17, 2015 at 6:27 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: wright brothers?

Aerodynamics is "just a theory" 'cause Wright brothers.

Got it Huggies.

(March 17, 2015 at 6:27 pm)Esquilax Wrote: They don't even answer the questions they purport to with a yes or a no!

Their usual excuse is that we're all ganging up on them and that they cannot realistically respond to everyone properly.

(March 17, 2015 at 5:28 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Yes and millions are spent on automobile research and development, but you can still build a car with basic knowledge...

I imagine you might be able to build this one.


First car?

(March 17, 2015 at 4:18 pm)Pandæmonium Wrote: It's so utterly ridiculous That I'm fairly sure he's trolling here.

I respectfully disagree; he really is a fucking simpleton.

(March 17, 2015 at 9:44 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:

(March 17, 2015 at 4:18 pm)Pandæmonium Wrote: It's so utterly ridiculous That I'm fairly sure he's trolling here.

I respectfully disagree; he really is a fucking simpleton.

C'mon now. That's surely just a theory.

(March 17, 2015 at 6:27 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: from your link

Quote:noun
1.the evolutionary development of a biological species, as by geographical isolation of a group of individuals from the main stock

How is this different from what i said?

Here's what you said:

(March 17, 2015 at 2:44 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: meaning "speciation" is just a genetic variation of the same species, that are isolated from breeding with each other.

Here's what my link wrote:

Quote:noun, Biology
1. the formation of new species as a result of geographic, physiological, anatomical, or behavioral factors that prevent previously interbreeding populations from breeding with each other.

British Dictionary definitions for speciation Expand
speciation
/ˌspiːʃɪˈeɪʃən/
noun
1.
the evolutionary development of a biological species, as by geographical isolation of a group of individuals from the main stock

You had to dig past the primary definition to select a dialectical definition that is not a scientific understanding in order to "make your point". You tried to pretend to the members in this thread that the first definition did not exist. You're a liar; you practice deceit by omission.

It must gall you to know that you have to practice deceit in order to protect your faith. Your every lie proclaims your doubt, little buddy. It's neat to watch your spiritual insecurities flailing away as you try to dance to the tune of eight or ten seasoned fiddlers. Your faith will tire out, you will collapse, and one day this board will be free of your bullshit, because you're running on fumes and cannot hide it.

Let me know when you want another spanking, boy. I'll happily oblige your spiritual insecurities.

Dumbfuck.