(April 17, 2015 at 1:43 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote:

(April 17, 2015 at 1:42 pm)Heywood Wrote: I'm glad that you realize your contributions in this thread haven't been worthwhile.  What do you hope to accomplish with your incessant nagging?  Are you trying to shut down the discussion we are having?

Oh, I wouldn't say that - did you miss Esqui's reply? 

Esquilax is a modtroll and I don't read his post anymore.  He trolls me and when I respond in kind I get warned.  The only time I read his posts is if they are in mod color(I won't ignore him when he is acting in capacity of a mod) or if someone else quotes him in their response.

That's strange...I don't recall the mod desk being flooded with reports and warnings centered around your posts Heywood.....but I'm sure you're right........how would I know, eh? You know what though, if you're being persecuted...you pious christian martyr, you......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy4uiiy0qgA

Then you missed essentially this:

I'm not under any requirement to provide anything of substance to you, you bigoted viper. The views you've expressed on this forum have led me to the opinion that you don't even deserve to lick the sole of my stiletto, much less merit a dignified response in writing.

It's not your job to police this thread for whether or not I'm trying to shut this conversation down - you're on MY ground here, and I'll wait for the people who actually take the responsibility for this forum to say so, not a schmuck like you. So if you don't like me calling your word vomit for what it is, then do what you suggest gays should do: leave.

(April 17, 2015 at 2:37 pm)Heywood Wrote:

(April 17, 2015 at 1:43 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: Oh, I wouldn't say that - did you miss Esqui's reply? 

Esquilax is a modtroll and I don't read his post anymore.  He trolls me and when I respond in kind I get warned.  The only time I read his posts is if they are in mod color(I won't ignore him when he is acting in capacity of a mod) or if someone else quotes him in their response.

You got warned for consistent trolling, exaggerated strawmen against multiple users, not for your responses to me. I explained this to you when your PMs to the person who handed down the warning- which you CCed me into so that I'd definitely see you insulting me- showed that you had no idea why you were being warned; you don't just get to lie about mod business, Heywood.

(April 17, 2015 at 2:44 pm)Rhythm Wrote: That's strange...I don't recall the mod desk being flooded with reports and warnings centered around your posts Heywood.....but I'm sure you're right........how would I know, eh?  You know what though, if you're being persecuted...you pious christian martyr, you......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy4uiiy0qgA

Are you denying that I haven't been sanctioned by report(s) generated by Esquilax?  Those PMs from the mod team....is that just my imagination?

Look I got into trouble for engaging with Esquilax in the manner he engages me.  It is only smart that I stop engaging him.  I'm not going to win some war with the mod team here.

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(April 17, 2015 at 2:48 pm)Esquilax Wrote:

(April 17, 2015 at 2:37 pm)Heywood Wrote: Esquilax is a modtroll and I don't read his post anymore.  He trolls me and when I respond in kind I get warned.  The only time I read his posts is if they are in mod color(I won't ignore him when he is acting in capacity of a mod) or if someone else quotes him in their response.

You got warned for consistent trolling, exaggerated strawmen against multiple users, not for your responses to me. I explained this to you when your PMs to the person who handed down the warning- which you CCed me into so that I'd definitely see you insulting me- showed that you had no idea why you were being warned; you don't just get to lie about mod business, Heywood.

Esquilax, I am posting here to let you know I have read this post and not ignored it.

Good day sir.

We're here -for you- Heywood...not against you.  That's why this line of discussion is unproductive, and unhelpful. Can we go back to hatin on gays now?

(April 17, 2015 at 2:54 pm)Rhythm Wrote: We're here -for you- Heywood...not against you.  That's why this line of discussion is unproductive, and unhelpful.  Can we go back to hatin on gays now?

Sure.

I was giving an honest response to SummerQueen why I missed Esquilax's post.  But I never said I hated gays. You are misrepresenting my position....becareful....you might get sanctioned like me.  I said I hated having the right of individual self determination erroded to prevent butthurt.

So can we go back to discussing your hatin individual self determination?  I still think there is hope that you can see the light someday and let go of your hate.

Hope in one hand, shit in the other, you know the saying. The right to self determination does not include the right to discriminate - we've already covered this ground. In fact -no- individual right (when a right exists) extends so far as to trample on another's. If you want to talk about rights, you absolutely do not get to make shit up as you go, or interpret them however you please. You understand that..eh?

(April 17, 2015 at 3:01 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Hope in one hand, shit in the other, you know the saying. The right to self determination does not include the right to discriminate - we've already covered this ground. In fact -no- individual right (when a right exists) extends so far as to trample on another's. If you want to talk about rights, you absolutely do not get to make shit up as you go, or interpret them however you please. You understand that..eh?

Bolded by me for emphasis.

You are just outright wrong there.  The right to self determination does include the right to discriminate.  A baker can refuse to bake a cake that says, "God hates fags".  The baker doesn't have to server the homophobe.  The only time a baker can not discriminate is when a class is protected by law.

Do gays need such protection?  No, there simply are not many businesses which will refuse to serve them or refuse to hire them.  You call me a gay hater but I have probably hired and promoted more gays than you know.  If I owned bakery, I'd bake a cake that reads, "Congratulations Adam and Steve"....hell I'd bake a cake for the KKK....I'd go after any sale I can get.   But you sir.  You have the right to refuse to serve the KKK and you have the right to refuse to serve gays.  You have the right to refuse to serve me....just because you don't like me.  You should even have the right to refuse to serve blacks as far as I am concerned because I don't believe they still require protection.

What is a shame is that you guys demonize me, call me a gay hater and such simply because I value the right of self determination over preventing butthurt.  Esquilax did the same with Hetshepsut by calling her a psychopath or what ever the insult was.  This despicable behavior  of demonizing people who don't share your values or priorities is disgusting and you people should simply stand in some corner somewhere and hang your heads in shame.

"I've totally got black friends"  

"Gays", as a group, already -are- protected by law....the same laws that you are protected by. That we need to explicitly single them (and other groups) out so that simpletons like yourself might realize that these laws are meant to apply to them as well is endemic to the problem - namely..that you failed to realize that no one needs to be fucking singled out for equal protection under law...until they come into contact with nitwits such as yourself!

-If yall would stop hatin on gays..we could stop writing additional laws.....and wouldn't that make everyone happy?