The theists around just do not play mafia enough

(June 2, 2015 at 11:36 am)Yoplait Wrote: i think as atheists what we need to do is stop laying low and remaining silent, and band together and take a stand. make christians want to kill themselves, or leave the country. and dont even get me started on christians in america who think they are being persecuted, they  wouldn't last 5 seconds in the middle east. we need to start showing them what real persecution is, and see which of them actually have the balls to stand behind what they believe when they have a gun to their heads.

Now, what you have written here is truly disturbing. Yes, religion isn't good and I think more  countries should strive for secularism, but without commiting mass genocide. Religion will eventually die out. Seriously you should think alot of things through. I hope one day that religion will be gone or at least that there will be secularism in majority of countries. We can't just change a few milion people's opinion and make them instantly stop believing. As an atheist you should be ashamed of saying these things!

If you're being serious, you need to see a mental health professional pronto. Nothing that anyone else does - short of legitimately putting into question your ability, or a loved one's ability, to live/not be tortured/abused - justifies violence. And even then, violence should be seen as an unfortunate last resort, not the first.

Seriously, you're coming across as a violent psychopath. No bad day can justify what you're threatening to do, even in 'jest'.

Yes, go get help.

So I'm gonna work on the assumption that Yoplait is being serious.

Please, please calm down Yoplait. I get that you're angry and incredibly frustrated, but you will do yourself absolutely no good thinking this way. No-one here wants to rape and murder christians, the very mention of that is a horrifying prospect.
You have to consider that religion as a whole IS dying out, or at the very least, declining faster than at any other point in history. It will one day be pushed to the very outskirts of society, and that process will happen as a result of the world's living standards slowly improving and people realising they have no need of God to be good or happy. So you must understand the reaction of the board - ranging from bemusement to condescension - when you come raging on here full of bile for christians.
They believe some wacky shit that shouldn't fool a child (and oftentimes it doesn't), let's be clear...but they don't deserve to be sidelined or murdered any more than other people. Please do not live with hatred in your heart, it will only destroy you in the end.

First and foremost let me say that I understand the OP's frustration and anger. I have enough of it myself. But I do think it is over the top.

Speaking for myself only, I am not a pacifist nor am I a door mat. I think that in some cases violence is necessary, mostly in self defense. I do not go looking for it, but if it finds me I will defend myself or anyone else who is in a threat zone.

I do not wish rape on anyone. I do not wish any Christian or any other type of religionist harm unless they are physically causing harm to others.

I make one exception and one exception only: Dominionists. These people seek the overthrow of our secular form of a Republic and replacing it with a fascist theocratic Christian state. I take their threats of killing people who they consider undesirables (anyone who is not just like them: gays, intellectuals, atheists, agnostics, people of non-Christian religions, Christians who are "not Christian enough"). I not only take the threat they pose to me and my fellow Nones (I consider you all "my people") seriously, I also take it personally. I have been warning people about the danger the Dominionists pose as much as I can for the past 10 years or so. As far as I am concerned, they are all traitors. I have even advocated for atheist/secular militias to be formed.

The threat they pose is real. We should all take it more seriously. There may come a time when we find ourselves in a situation much like the Jews did during World War II. Never say it cannot happen here. The Dominionists view themselves at war with the rest of us. We should look at it the same way too, because, that is actually what it is.

Work for peace, but at the same time prepare for war. You really do not want to be caught with your pants down. Remember, history has always shown what happens when people are not prepared to face an opposing hostile force, or are in a weak position in relation to them.

I want my people to be aware, be prepared, and defend themselves when it becomes necessary. Dominionists are not our friends. That is all that I am saying.

Wow. I really have no idea where this 'prepare for war' stuff is coming from. Our (atheists/agnostics/unbelievers) position in the West (and the rest of the world, albeit far more slowly and incrementally) is only improving, and has been over the last decades. This kind of rhetoric is more at home in the 50s and 60s during the red scare. The vast majority of Christians are normal, decent people, because the vast majority of the people on earth are normal, decent people.

Chill.

Listen to the first 2 manowar albums over and over...(Battle Hymns and Hail to England)
(It stopped me killing my dad)
They will calm your nerves!

sorry for coming off as violent...i ate took a nap and ate a big meal and feel more calm now. you are right we shouldn't kill anyone because that would only make atheism look more wicked to the self righteous christians. i guess the best hope i find in atheism is that life is short cus even when i talk to old people they say the time flew by and felt like they were 26 just yesterday. it gives me hope as an atheist that there are only 36,500 days in 100 years and most of us have a lot less days than that to go through and considering time never stops and the days trickle by, 36 thousand is not a big number at all when you feel like u are depressed for millions of day.

as someone mentioned earlier in this thread, i think you are right that with time people will see through the lies of religion... i remember being a kid in church the pastors and ministers would say its "harder to convert older people because they are set in their ways of sins" but really its because they been around long enough to see through their bs.

i hate how the christians target the kids, and then they grow up and spread their crap. anyone heard of jesus camp? can you honestly say this is nothing short of brainwashing?

i saw this one atheist quote that i really liked. "the difference between cults and religions is that in a cult there is a person at the top who knows its all bs, in a religion that person is dead."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LACyLTsH4ac

Here's an interesting discussion on IMDB with the kid from Jesus Camp who admitted in front of everyone he had trouble believing:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0486358/boar...691883?p=1

Also, if you go about three minutes into this video, Morgan Spurlock interviews the preacher kid in 2013.





Just interesting stuff