we've become way too PC now, especially at the movies.
you don't really see any blood 'n guts anymore.

None in Star Trek, I definitely don't think we'll get any more "dark" Star Wars (like the dismemberment of Anakin).
And here we are with a shiny new state of the art 3D dino movie and they won't even let us see digital T-rex eat a digital goat! digital blood, guts and all!
NOOOOOO!!!! we might feel nauseous and sue! How weak is that ....Why are all movies for kids these days!

Oh no the movie is a sucka. While, for instance, JP3 held a good balance of action, comedy, timing and child actors from not being irritating this one does not. Yes the characters suck to the point they really harm a stupid monster flick. Imagine a ride among the dinosaurs - these huge CG creatures and then all focuses on one hairy kid saying "No, I think our parents are getting divorce." - I guess it would be a good line for a character just before he gets eaten by a giant T-Rex but not for someone that survives and you have to cheer for. I mean it's such a stupid cliche already that in this big destruction movies you always have a theme of family gathering, so it looks like the whole world needs to get destroyed in order that one stupid american family gets together.

Then the screenplay: imagine everything you see on screen gets explained to you by people in HQ - like pterodactyls escape and then cut to HQ where they tell us that pterodactyls escaped.

Then the dinosaurs that, except for few plant eaters, have fanatic mission of hate toward humans to kill them - like the one Jews had for Jesus in Mel Gibson's "Passion".

And then every scene has to be a tribute to some other scene from a famous movie because these people are too stupid to think up and choreograph an actual scene.

JP1 was all about new special effects, wonder, tension, few laughs.
JP2 was Spielberg being angry that he has to make a sequel and audience had to suffer.
JP3 was about exploration, making up for JP2, action, few laughs and some new fun dinos.
JW was beyond all that, it's not that it feels that they didn't try it's just that they didn't know what to do. Filmmakers were too clunky and incompetent.

Lost World was Spielberg? Damn...

(June 14, 2015 at 8:31 pm)Iroscato Wrote: It made $511 million over the weekend. That's erm...that's a lot of money. The biggest opening weekend in history, in fact.

This is why we can't have original movies anymore. People are all too eager to gobble up some half-assed fourth movie in a franchise without stopping to think that maybe they deserve better. The reason Hollywood puts out mostly regurgitated crap is that people are all too willing to spend their money on regurgitated crap.

If you ask me, the reason why we can't have original movies is the comic book movie fad. Oh how I hope all that nonsense blows over.

(June 15, 2015 at 11:17 am)Alex K Wrote: If you ask me, the reason why we can't have original movies is the comic book movie fad. Oh how I hope all that nonsense blows over.

t-.-t
Long live the MCU! Long live the DCCU!

See, I think the comic book fad is a symptom of what I was referring to.  The reason production companies want to make comic book movies is not just because they're popular, but because they have the potential to become a franchise.  They can pump sequel after sequel using the same characters, and people will go to see it. Besides, catering to nerds is a cash cow. We part with out money quite easily.

And no, it isn't blowing over any time soon.  Both Marvel and DC's movie companies have long term strategies of releasing many movies.   Here is just Marvel's list of slated releases.

I did like it when the T-Rex ate the lawyer.

Bit of justice in lawyers ending up as T-Rex shit, there.

Oh well now I've seen it, too!
It's no Prometheus level catastrophe that makes me want to unsee it, far from it - but I can't help but wonder, what happened to the art of film making. Ordinarily one would think that with a 150 million budget, there should be some money in it for making a good film, but apparently that's just not the objective any more. Jesus, does sensible dialogue cost a million dollars per word or why is it so hard to come by. Some things though are so incoherent that one wonders whether the put the movie together in a different order as originally intended. Weird!

(June 15, 2015 at 5:28 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Oh no the movie is a sucka. While, for instance, JP3 held a good balance of action, comedy, timing and child actors from not being irritating this one does not. Yes the characters suck to the point they really harm a stupid monster flick. Imagine a ride among the dinosaurs - these huge CG creatures and then all focuses on one hairy kid saying "No, I think our parents are getting divorce." - I guess it would be a good line for a character just before he gets eaten by a giant T-Rex but not for someone that survives and you have to cheer for. I mean it's such a stupid cliche already that in this big destruction movies you always have a theme of family gathering, so it looks like the whole world needs to get destroyed in order that one stupid american family gets together.

Then the screenplay: imagine everything you see on screen gets explained to you by people in HQ - like pterodactyls escape and then cut to HQ where they tell us that pterodactyls escaped.

Then the dinosaurs that, except for few plant eaters, have fanatic mission of hate toward humans to kill them - like the one Jews had for Jesus in Mel Gibson's "Passion".

And then every scene has to be a tribute to some other scene from a famous movie because these people are too stupid to think up and choreograph an actual scene.

JP1 was all about new special effects, wonder, tension, few laughs.
JP2 was Spielberg being angry that he has to make a sequel and audience had to suffer.
JP3 was about exploration, making up for JP2, action, few laughs and some new fun dinos.
JW was beyond all that, it's not that it feels that they didn't try it's just that they didn't know what to do. Filmmakers were too clunky and incompetent.

I actually don't mind the catastrophe induced family bonding theme. But it wad done so half assedly and heavy handedly here!  They would have had to prepare it somehow and then roll with it - have the kids leave to be with aunt in the park *because* the parents are getting a divorce, damn that would have made *some* sense and then have them come together a la JP3 cliche if you must - but if you really want that story ark, you need to do it right, spend some time on it, and do it consistently.

Generally, the art of atmospheric suspense and built up seems to be a dead art. Too afraid to lose the transformers crowd if one dared to actually take time to produce a sense of dread on top of a working theme park? The park by the way never feels real because no time is spent having real people do something there. That is a big problem - you want the park and the people in it to feel real, and then let danger loom over it. Trevorrow could not pull it off as a writer.