(July 6, 2015 at 5:49 am)pool Wrote:

(July 6, 2015 at 5:31 am)jesus_wept Wrote: I understand the argument so there is no need to keep repeating it. I would just like to know if there is a point, other than you think you're a special snowflake and everyone else is stupid?

But do you accept the argument?If not,why?

Do I accept the argument that you're a special little snowflake and everyone else is stupid? No, because I think it's far more likely that you the one being stupid.

(July 6, 2015 at 7:45 am)pool Wrote:

(July 6, 2015 at 7:39 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: Let me make this simple for you, If you never heard of god, would you believe in a god? No you have no belief in a concept that doesn't exist.

What you did was basically say the same thing i said to you in a different way.

If that's what you mean then how can you possibly say the position of atheism is illogical? Atheism is the lack of belief in gods, so if the concept of god doesn't exist and you just agreed that you would automatically lack a belief in god, then your in the atheist position it just wouldn't be have the same label.

(July 6, 2015 at 7:52 am)Mr.wizard Wrote:

(July 6, 2015 at 7:45 am)pool Wrote: What you did was basically say the same thing i said to you in a different way.

If that's what you mean then how can you possibly say the position of atheism is illogical? Atheism is the lack of belief in gods, so if the concept of god doesn't exist and you just agreed that you would automatically lack a belief in god, then your in the atheist position it just wouldn't be have the same label.

VERY sorry,i missed an important part.Please refer to my previous post.

(July 6, 2015 at 7:57 am)pool Wrote:

(July 6, 2015 at 7:52 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: If that's what you mean then how can you possibly say the position of atheism is illogical? Atheism is the lack of belief in gods, so if the concept of god doesn't exist and you just agreed that you would automatically lack a belief in god, then your in the atheist position it just wouldn't be have the same label.

VERY sorry,i missed an important part.Please refer to my previous post.

I think your missing an important part of your brain.

(July 6, 2015 at 8:00 am)Mr.wizard Wrote:

(July 6, 2015 at 7:57 am)pool Wrote: VERY sorry,i missed an important part.Please refer to my previous post.

I think your missing an important part of your brain.

Prove it.

(July 6, 2015 at 8:45 am)pool Wrote:

(July 6, 2015 at 8:00 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: I think your missing an important part of your brain.

Prove it.

Your doing a good job all by yourself.

pool, I don't get it. Didn't we agree that atheism is either a logical position or a moral one? Don't you agree that it's both merely on account of being moral as I explained? What's all the fuss about?

I don't want them to mistakenly think that atheism make sense logically

(July 6, 2015 at 8:47 am)excitedpenguin Wrote: pool, I don't get it. Didn't we agree that atheism is either a logical position or a moral one? Don't you agree that it's both merely on account of being moral as I explained? What's all the fuss about?

His argument is that atheism is illogical because theism is illogical, because atheism depends on theism.

If theism is illogical, then atheism is logical I'd have said.

Believing the world is actually made of special snow is illogical, and not believing the world is made of special snow is logical.

To say otherwise would appear to misunderstand what atheism is, which is always a strong possibility.

Also, atheism is a pre-emptive general stance to an as yet undisclosed claim which is very likely to be unfounded, but it may not be. I'd have to wait to hear it before making a final judgement.

A better question would be, "Is there/has there been stuff going on you aren't aware of and wouldn't understand?" My answer would be, "Very probably."